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Many slave owners in both the North and South were also political leaders. Soon, they began to pass laws that stipulated different treatment of white indentured servants, newly freed white men, and African slaves.

No white indentured servant could be beaten while naked, but an African slave could. These new laws gave poor whites another elevation in status over their Black peers. It was a slow but effective process, and with the passing of a few generations, any bond that indentured servants shared with African slaves was permanently severed.

As slavery expanded in the South and indentured servitude declined, the wealthy elite offered poor whites the earliest version of the American Dream: But few realized that dream.

Not surprisingly, however, poor whites never became the economic equals of the elite. With whites and Blacks divided, the wealthy elite prospered enormously for the next two hundred years while poor whites remained locked in poverty. With the potential election of Abraham Lincoln, however, the upper class began to worry they would lose their most valuable commodity: And it was white male bodies they needed.

Religious and political leaders began using a combination of fear, sex, and God to paint a chilling picture of freed angry Black men ravaging the South. If you are tame enough to submit, abolition preachers will be at hand to consummate the marriage of your daughters to black husbands. War will break out everywhere like hidden fire from the earth. We will be overpowered and our men will be compelled to wander like vagabonds all over the earth, and as for our women, the horrors of their state we cannot contemplate in imagination.

We will be completely exterminated and the land will be left in the possession of the blacks, and then it will go back to a wilderness and become another Africa or Saint Domingo.

Wealthy plantation owners had succeeded in separating the two races, and they now planted a fear of Blacks in the minds of poor and working white men. Enslaved Blacks were an asset to the wealthy, but freed Blacks were portrayed as a danger to all. By creating this common enemy among rich and poor alike, the wealthy elite sent a clear message: Poor and working class whites signed up by the hundreds of thousands to fight for what they believed was their way of life.

Meanwhile, many of the wealthy planters who benefitted economically from slavery were granted exemptions from military service and avoided the horrors of battle. On both sides of the Mason-Dixon line, wealthy elites were allowed to pay other men to take their place on the bloody battlefields. As the war lingered on, poor whites in the North and South began to realize the rich had waged the war, but it was the poor who were dying in it.

With more than , deaths, the end of the Civil War eventually brought freedom for African-Americans. But after the war, ex-slaves were left to linger and die in a world created by those in the North who no longer cared and those in the South who now resented their existence. Without land, property, or hope for economic gains, many freed Blacks and returning white soldiers turned to sharecropping and found themselves once again working side by side, dependent on wealthy landowners.

Again, this was intended to prevent poor whites and poor Blacks from joining forces. Wells wrote in her pamphlet, Southern Horrors: Lynch Law in All Its Phases:. The editorial in question was prompted by the many inhuman and fiendish lynchings of Afro-Americans which have recently taken place and was meant as a warning.

Eight lynched in one week and five of them charged with rape! The thinking public will not easily believe freedom and education more brutalizing than slavery, and the world knows that the crime of rape was unknown during four years of civil war when the white women of the South were at the mercy of the race which is all at once charged with being a bestial one.

This fear and mistrust continued for decades, not just in the South, but throughout all of America. From the factories of industrialized cities in the North to rural farmlands in the Midwest, from the Statue of Liberty in the East to the filmmakers in the West, racism had replaced classism as the most blatant form of oppression. But classism lingered, despite what wealthy elites would have Americans believe. Martin Luther King Jr. In his sermon, he talked about a conversation with his white jailers, saying:.

You ought to be marching with us. And all you are living on is the satisfaction of your skin being white, and the drum major instinct of thinking that you are somebody big because you are white. You ought to be out here marching with every one of us every time we have a march. That the poor white has been put into this position, where through blindness and prejudice, he is forced to support his oppressors.

Protestors built a temporary encampment on the Mall in Washington, D. Demonstrators on the National Mall. The assumption is that tipped workers will earn their own minimum wages by making up the difference in tips. It was the way I spoke that landed me the job. And what I often heard was a growing dissatisfaction among poor whites who were struggling to make ends meet in the failing economy. I understood their fear and frustration.

How many times have we been told to get a job, or that if we just worked harder we could improve our situation? American society has made it perfectly clear: I understood what it was to go hungry. Remember that tip credit? I did, too, every time I stole a biscuit with gravy or a basket of tater tots. I understood their anger. I was angry at my life choices that never felt like real choices.

I was angry that wealth and prosperity were all around me while my hands remained clenched in empty pockets. They only hire Mexicans because they work cheap. We need to get those people out if we want jobs. I heard this over and over from unemployed men at the bar. In December , a federal grand jury indicted Tyson Foods and six managers on 36 counts related to conspiring to import undocumented workers into the U. One defendant shot himself a few months after the indictment. Two made plea agreements and testified for the government.

They said they were doing what the company demanded when they went along with the hiring of illegal workers. There was no question that Tyson illegally smuggled undocumented workers into the U. The trial was about who initiated the operation. Regardless of who knew what, at least three managers at Tyson saw that brown workers were cheaper than white workers, and adjusted their business model accordingly. Don Tyson, having lived his entire life in northwest Arkansas, was one of them.

I was born and raised in California. But it is an accent associated with liberal snobs. I was an outsider. Instead of fighting for better education for the white underclass, we call them ignorant rednecks.

Instead of fighting for them to have better health care, we laugh at their missing teeth. Instead of fighting for them to have better housing, we joke about tornados hitting trailer parks. I was working my day shift at the bar, the same regulars sitting on the same barstools.

They looked like most everyone else in the area, blue-collar scruffy types. I figured they were on a lunch break or they were in town to fish on the lake. I took their order, brought their food, and when they finished eating, dropped off the check. When they came up to the register to pay, one of the men made a comment about my hat.

My hat was a black and white newsboy cap. I was confused and I felt tension in the air. The bar had gone quiet. I handed the man his change. He glanced around at the regulars staring at him. It felt like a stand-off in an old western movie. Was a brawl about to break out over my hat? The man shook his head, looked at me in disgust, and walked out with his friends. The tension left with them.

I must have looked shocked. We got your back. A few months later, I left Arkansas and moved to Vancouver, Washington. I signed up for training to be a court appointed special advocate CASA for kids in foster care, and attended a series of classes in Vancouver. One night, the instructors gathered the forty or so trainees for an exercise. We stood in a room and the leader of the group read a list of statements.

As the exercise went on, I started to notice a pattern. The woman stood next to me and held my arm, and I immediately sized her up: Not a single person looked at us. Their eyes focused on the floor, their hands, or something incredibly interesting on the ceiling.

I suppose it was the polite, non-judgmental thing to do. If something or someone makes us uncomfortable, we simply avert our eyes and create an invisible barrier. You stay over there. Those two experiences helped me see more clearly than ever how fool-headed it is to stereotype people based on how they look and where they live. On the other hand, I assumed a group of liberal, college-educated volunteers would ooze warmth and solidarity. What would America look like today if King had succeeded in uniting poor people of all races?

Would my bar customers in Arkansas more easily identify with Blacks, Hispanics, and other people of color than with billionaires like Don Tyson?

Would they feel as if their voices mattered, as if they had some say in what their government does? By the s, this inequality was on the rise, but would soon become much more pronounced. Reagan got the GOP nod in , and during his presidential campaign, he portrayed himself as a grandfatherly, all-American cowboy, a true Washington outsider.

He promised to fix the economy with a combination of tax breaks, reduced government regulation, and cuts to federal programs. The intent was to encourage the upper classes to spend and invest more, which would boost the economy and create new jobs. Neither Reagan nor Congress was willing to touch Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid; they were too popular among the middle class. This left a tiny portion of the federal budget for social programs on the chopping block, including food stamps, vocational education, and subsidized housing, among others.

From fiscal year to fiscal year , federal funding for these programs plummeted by After a two-year recession, the economy rebounded and continued to grow.

Yet while the Reagan administration congratulated themselves on the economic expansion, poor people were still struggling. But Reagan had given poor whites someone to blame for their suffering: He never said she was Black.

Bush, and chairman of the Republican National Committee from until his death two years later. In an unguarded moment that Atwater believed was off the record, he said:. This shift was important because Reagan had cut social programs that began with the presidencies of John F.

Kennedy and Lyndon B. The poverty Kennedy saw was, in part, a legacy of the era of slavery. These programs ultimately helped poor Blacks and poor whites, in both urban and rural areas.

What was to keep poor whites from seeing they had lost just as much as poor Blacks? The groundwork had already been laid. Public Assistance and the Criminalization of Poverty. During periods of economic expansion, the bottom 90 percent saw a decline in income gains. By , those gains had been replaced by losses. Public assistance programs are easy targets for politicians, thanks in part to the racial divide introduced by slave owners in colonial America. Politicians, the corporate media, and giant employers like Tyson have continued to drive socioeconomic wedges between poor whites and poor minorities.

Working class whites may view economic struggles as temporary setbacks, and see their use of social services as a last resort. But politicians keep implying that for minorities, public assistance is a way of life. Yet the message to the white underclass was clear: I was struggling to survive until I could find work. At the checkout line, I shielded my card, and myself, from the people around me.

When I eventually found a job, I no longer qualified for assistance, and I remained poor. My story is common and unremarkable, unlike the fictional tale of welfare recipients driving luxury cars and eating lobster every night. When terrorists attacked the U. They displayed a unity reminiscent of the weeks following the bombing of Pearl Harbor. The Carlyle Group was named after the luxury hotel where founding members first met in to discuss the creation of a multinational private equity corporation.

In , employees and advisors of the firm included former U. Defense CEO pay was 44 times that of a military general with 20 years of experience and times that of an Army private in In contrast to wealthy individuals who became even wealthier, those who were sent to do the actual fighting comprised disproportionately high numbers of working class Americans.

More than , veteran disability claims have been registered with the Veterans Administration. Returning soldiers face higher unemployment rates than their civilian counterparts, particularly among male veterans age 21 to Between and , the youngest veterans had an unemployment rate of Veterans struggle to find proper healthcare in a system ill-prepared for the number of wounded, particularly those with catastrophic injuries and mental health issues that require long-term care.

Private nonprofit organizations have been picking up the slack left by inadequate funding in the federal budget. Who would blame them for being angry? How smart can they be? A poster boy for generations of socioeconomic privilege, Trump joined the New York Military Academy at age thirteen, then studied at Fordham University before transferring to the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

He steered clear of the steerage class and catered exclusively to the rich by buying or building luxury residential properties, office buildings, hotels, casinos, golf courses, and resorts. Job one for us is to make sure the public sector does a limited job, and no more. In his eyes, Trump is a self-made entrepreneur who refuses to acknowledge the millions of dollars of family, public, and private assistance that helped him realize his gilt, mirrored glass, and pink marble American dream.

Government regulations that stifle ambition are a threat to American dreamers everywhere, but laws that can be used to the advantage of top-of-the-business-world warriors are just fine. Big or small, our government has failed everyone but the wealthiest class. Once in office, they become puppets of the richest ten percent of Americans.

Donald Trump is a business man. Until recently, money and fame were everything to him. He measured his success by his ranking in the Forbes list of billionaires. Now, Trump wants power and control, too. Like wealthy plantation owners who just happened to be politicians, Trump does not need to be bought; he is already rich enough. Marginalized people have been fighting for equality for decades.

But how can people fighting for social equality include poor whites who see them as the enemy? We are all sides of the same coin, a coin that has been held in the pocket of the elite class since the first settlers arrived in the American colonies. I am a poor, uneducated, white woman. I fight for racial equality because people of color are not my enemy. Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgender people are not my enemy.

Immigrants and refugees are not my enemy. Muslims are not my enemy. Native Americans are not my enemy. Single mothers and fathers are not my enemy. People on Medicare, disability, food stamps, and unemployment are not my enemy. The homeless are not my enemy. And it turns out that the people of a small Arkansas town in the middle of the Ozarks are not my enemy.

Other poor people are not the enemy, no matter how they look, how they pray, or who they love. They are fighting to be heard. Did slave owners care about white indentured servants when they pitted them against African slaves, or did they want to ensure a steady supply of cheap labor?

Did Ronald Reagan care about poor white people when he trotted out the fictional welfare queen, or did he need a budget item to cut? Do wealthy elites and politicians care about poor and middle class people when they send them off to war, or are they anticipating massive profits? He wants to stand on our shoulders so we can lift him up.

Can You See The Oligarchy? When will we realize we have more in common with all poor people than with rich capitalists and corrupt politicians who manipulate the system to increase their own wealth, power, and control? Instead of wondering which billionaire will finally reach out a hand to raise us up, we should stop waiting and start acting.

One of these quotes is from Martin Luther King Jr. Bernie Sanders was born into a working-class home. His father dropped out of high school and supported the family as a paint salesman after coming to the U. Later, after the war, they would find out most of his family died in the Holocaust.

By the time Bernie graduated from college, he was alone. His brother had moved to England for work, and both of his parents had died. He moved to Vermont and held a variety of low-wage jobs, spending many of the following years broke.

So, for me, to talk to working-class people is not very hard. He bootstrapped his way into politics and has remained loyal to the poor and working class for more than thirty years. He is not a millionaire. He has not built a fortune from his position holding office.

I prefer to call him one of our own. He says if you are poor, take my hand. Together we can lift you up. He knows this because he has lived it. It is about everyone having the same opportunity to paint their walls in shades of possibility.

When we have been pushed down for so long, it can become impossible to see whose hands are keeping us there. Is it really welfare queens or immigrant laborers or Muslims, as Trump claims?

I say no, because those people have so little power. Maybe the answer lies not in looking up, but in looking sideways and recognizing that our poor neighbors, who may be different than us, are struggling too. Maybe if we all look up together, we can see more clearly that the hand of oppression belongs only to those who have always had money, power, and control. Those are the real enemies. The real enemies fear us. They know that if we come together, we will have the numbers on our side.

We must stop doing what they want: We must direct a truly united voice against those who, four hundred years ago, created the American Dream and then held it out of reach. We must join together and fight back against the wealthy elite and corporate politicians.

We must build a new country that belongs to all of us, a country where no one ever has to feel like just a poor motherfucker no one cares about. I very much appreciate this piece overall. Reagan was no longer the president in ; George H. Great piece, although I also noticed an error. Not sure if the error is with the year or the President.

A couple of things, though — The charges against Tyson were dropped, not sure why you mentioned Clinton being president when you fail to mention GW Bush was POTUS during Iraq war; and governors quite often give tax breaks to industries to keep jobs in their state, no?

As Bernie Sanders did with the gun manufacturer in Vermont? I thank you for this passionate piece of writing, and plan to share it with others. I agree completely with your comment. The perspective of this article is very well documented and written.

Have you not noticed the last decade of mass protesting and grassroots organizing, of the likes never before seen? The largest protest movement in US and world history was against the Iraq War. At least that was true at the time. The Occupy movement might have been even larger.

Then there have been the nation-wide protests against police brutality. And now there is the first major candidate in US campaign history that, along with the largest crowds ever, has raised such large amounts of campaign contributions from small donations.

But young people stay home in droves during off-presidential election years. That opens the door to the Tea Party. This is excellent, and I wanted to provide another excellent if chilling piece of supporting reading from The poor, white people are in fact too stupid to vote properly and amazingly enough selfishly.

They are the ultimate suckers. They are just jokes and the joke is on them. This is a group of people who have almost effortlessly been manipulated by some pretty despicable people into voting against their own interests and aligning themselves with people who have nothing in common with them. If allowed to rule this once great nation for too long, it will be game over, not just for the poor white people of this article, but for the entire Republic.

Another 8 or 16 years of reasonable people in power in multiple branches of the government should set this country in a better direction. The author of this is both stupid and ignorant. I used to vote democratic all the time. But over time the democratic party has become the party of sin.

The list goes on. Please read our comment policy. Disagreeing with what the author has written is fine; name calling is not. We do not have a theocratic governing body nor are most of our communities. Meanwhile the elites steal your soul and keep you poor and dumb.

Please reread the article and maybe it will all sink in? The obvious liberal agenda has reared its ugly head. I liked the article for its well researched data, but was saddened to see that it was just another whine-laden political rant in the end. The author says that Muslims are not her enemy.

How conveniently she ignores the Islamic method of subjugating women to second class citizens, which is the best they can hope for, or at its worst, condemns them to near slavery and death for the slightest perceived infractions against their archaic religious edicts.

Let us not tout his achievements in social programs when his goal was to keep poor people particularly blacks under the government thumb and believing that the Democratic party actually cares for them. Mark — Many Americans are Muslim. Some of the earliest Americans to experience religious oppression were Muslims, many of them brought here as slaves.

A large part of the Muslim population today still are blacks who descend from those slaves. So, an American is more likely to be harmed by a white Christian and then have their live saved by an Arab Muslim. Do you really believe that Muslim women in America are following their men 6 feet behind, unable to vote, drive, get educated, or hold jobs?

The African slaves imported to the US were not Muslim, because they were sold by Muslims, and while Islam forbids Muslims to make war upon each other, slavery and sale of captives are explicitly permitted. Religion had nothing to do with it — the issues were tribalism and greed, and that remains a constant in African conflicts today, particularly between African Muslims and kafirs.

I have travelled in Islamic Africa and can tell you quite a bit about it. Finally, it is a fallacy to claim that Muslims in the US have a lower rate of violence than Christians, for at least two reasons. Second, if you think Muslims are less likely to be criminals, I would recommend you spend some time in county prison in any metropolitan region.

Many prisons no longer offer the Bible on the commisary order sheet and offer only the Quran. Did you know any of those facts about Islam, or Muslims in the US? Or did you arrogantly assume your Little Red Book-style ideology is all you need to know? The author repeatedly quotes historians, historical documents, and specific data. For example, the amount of fines, taxes, etc for Tyson Foods is given. Also, the amount of federal funding for various things is detailed, along with defense contracts, income growth, and such.

The personal aspects of the article simply showed what this data means for real Americans living their lives. Maybe you should read before commenting. Thank you so very much for illustrating the entire point of this article with your clueless commentary.

Who did Jesus side up with? Prostitutes, the poor, thieves, foreigners. Who was he constantly at odds with? I think I will take my chances in the party of sinners.

After defending the prostitute, Jesus also told her to go and sin no more. Jesus loved the sinner, but hated the sin. The left conveniently forgets that when discussing Jesus. Nor did he imply that it applied to all Christians as a universal law of Christianity. The implication is that we should be aiming for God or a spiritual ideal. Hamartia can even mean something as simple as being mistaken, not implying any absolute moral and divine failure whatsoever.

There is no evidence that Jesus was pointing to a specific sin. He often referred to sin in more general ways, as having fallen short. There is no evidence even that the accusations against this woman were true or that Jesus believed they were true, as he stated no opinion on the matter. Besides, that story about the adulteress in John is an interpolation. No one knows its origin, although by the 4th century there are mentions of it. Some Christian humility is needed. The only thing I stated incorrectly was she was a prostitute, not an adulterer.

But my point still stands. Micah — I simply proved that you were projecting your personal opinions onto Jesus. That is a bit problematic, if you consider yourself a Christian. Instead of embracing humility in trying to understand Jesus on his own terms, you attack others. Is that what Christianity means to you?

The sinners have much more fun. Man you may live in a delapidate trailer, but I have news for you. I am with you; I am 65 going on 66 , and am one more white poor mother fucker. The problem is whites , hispanics we all have been played for fools, why the rich manipulate the facts that place and hold them in power. I just hope all people of the world realize that the average American is just one poor mother fucker.

We mother fuckers are the True Average American. Best one yet on the Internet. SC, I think the author of this is brilliant and thoughtful. She did her homework. She considered the issue. She made a connection. And then she shared it. Why on earth would you call her stupid and ignorant? If you have an opposing view, why not voice it in an intelligently written piece like hers instead of resorting to ridiculously broad generalizations?

For the record, I am not gay, but I am an atheist who has had an abortion. She is also sharing her opinions. She is not stupid or ignorant for having a different opinion than you.

Attacking and judging her and the entire Democratic Party is close-minded and ignorant to me. Some would rationally argue based on the evidence that the entire two-party establishment is bought by big money. It would be hard to argue the opposite based on what has become obvious over the years. Still, there are differences between the parties.

Data shows that inequality increases, unemployment grows, recessions happen more often and last longer, and suicide and homicide rates increase under Republican administrations. If one was to rationally choose between the two main parties, the Democrats are the lesser evil. With lesser evilism, fundamental problems are never solved and much needed reform never happens. The lesser evil makes the greater evil possible, the sugar that helps the poison go down.

That could not be further from the truth! This only serves to highlight just what you were trying to point out in your essay! This was the most articulate and honest approach to this phenomenon in America! Thank you and I hope that you write more for us to enjoy and learn! I read your piece to my husband because it was so enlightening and captured truth!

Keep up the good fight sister! God has been redefined and restructured in every age. Christians use every weird scriptural passage to justify their hate, racism, homophobia and misogyny. But our future leaders, the millenials, are decidedly secular, materialistic, pro-choice and find religion annoying. Technology, reason, knowledge are all we need.

Wow, what an amazing insightfully made point. Gawd, I hate it when comment sections are added to articles! Stir is a great name for this site, because, to make an equally insightful intellectual point: Lots of crap here.

The whole point of this site is to start conversations. Some are better than others. We have one moderator right now. A fifth scenario described at the link you provided — i. The entire culture wars that have driven the political right for decades is the most paternalistic expression of politics around.

Most liberals want to increase opportunities and resources for people to improve their own lives, the complete opposite of paternalism. Conservatives are paternalistic with their support of a strong militarized police state and neocon state building. As for white conservatives, more whites are on welfare, both as total number and as a percentage. The culture war issue is a bit more complex, but keep in mind that many of these people are members of very conservative religious groups.

The difference is the cultural frame of reference. This is not only true for political issues. They know what Donald Trump thinks: He jumped right in the ring!

Most liberals would be horrified if conservatives said to Muslims what liberals say to conservative Christians without hesitation. Yet they are totally oblivious to how they are perceived or why their message is not well-received. Likewise, just like the people who are leading the fight against ISIS are Muslims, the people standing up to the actual Klan are the ones described in this article, but neither gets any credit for it from people thousands of miles away who have no idea what is going on.

Bill Clinton was a man with a foot in both worlds, much like the political version of Sam Walton or Don Tyson. He was the local boy who made good. But the people he won over so easily turned on him, not because of economic issues, but for violating cultural norms. Cheating on his wife, lying about it, then pretending nothing happened. This seems to be what Hillary herself thought. It showed that he could not be trusted. Nor did he do sufficient public penance for it to show that he knew he had messed up.

It generally involves crying, apologizing, and invoking Jesus. Alternatively, a very public reconciliation involving Bill crying, apologizing, and invoking Jesus would have worked too. Thus the bizarre theories about Hillary. As I said, no one paying attention could say this.

Paternalism is the very heart of the conservative social order. Conservatism is first and foremost about social control, about maintaining the perceived moral hierarchy. Corey Robin explains this well about the reactionary mind. You must not read as many conservatives as I do.

I regularly come across conservative pundits and authors offering condescension to poor whites. There is nothing complex about it, not essentially. The culture wars are what conservatism is all about. Many urban liberals were raised in rural and suburban conservative communities. I live in a farming state and the younger generation have left the rural areas for the bigger cities.

I was raised by conservative parents. And I spent a large part of my life in the Deep South growing up. Plenty of liberals are Christians. In fact, most liberals are Christians. Also, plenty of liberals are equally critical of fundamentalism in other religions.

As far the Klan, the people opposing it have been diverse. It actually was found largely in urban areas and its membership was mostly the middle-to-upper class. The Second Klan was mostly found in the more liberal North, not the South. Sure, right-wingers and reactionaries turned on him, but they never liked him in the first place.

Give me specifics and back it up with data or at least examples. There are many ways to try to make sense of it all. Please enlighten us with specifics to make your case that liberals are patronizing toward poor whites.

Just please be specific. BDS, you are proof of what George Will succinctly stated last month on television: Two shining examples of the idiocy produced by visceral thinking are primary leaders D. Lunacy on both sides. While the field may indeed be unfair, voting in a hard core socialist will do nothing but bankrupt people on all levels with huge tax increases.

I wrote numerous comments here describing in great detail my reasons. I have indeed reasoned myself into these positions. How dare they have different opinions based on different reasons!

A lot of sound and fury, but not much sense, as far as I can tell. Nothing you said in your comment applies to me, that is for sure. Anyway, anyone who knows American history and knows socialism would know that Sanders is what used to be considered a moderate liberal and old school progressive.

He is no where near as far left as FDR. Sanders is only socialist in the old sense of the word as a social reformer, although more accurately he is what is known as a social democrat. None of this is worth getting an aneurysm over. But my understanding of his politics is the opposite of selfishness.

And laziness is not party- or candidate-specific. There is not a candidate on any ticket who appeals to me. Not sure what you mean when you say that BDS has been asking me to explain, as I have only just begun to post to this forum.

That being said, I stand by the quote from George Will. It is impossible to believe that anyone came by their political stance out of sheer logic. We are human and prone to emotion. I guess I have to remember when pointing at someone that there are three fingers pointing back at me. Shame on you if you are unwilling to apply that George Will quote to your own political position, but only to people who disagree with you.

And shame on you if you are unwilling to admit that the reason you employed it was because you thought the opinions of the person to whom you were responding were not worthy of consideration. It had nothing to do with wanting us all — together — to admit that emotions play a role in the formation of our political opinions.

You clearly sought to exclude yourself from that, as you clearly believe that your political opinions were arrived at solely through reason. And yet you can look at an article like this, which even gives you the data that shows how radically different income growth has been distributed during economic expansions over the last sixty years, and just repeat tired tropes about the poor being selfish and lazy.

Of course, back then we had tax brackets that went up into the millions of dollars before accounting for inflation! Not surprisingly, rural whites were the most likely to be kicked off those systems.

No they just tapped into the resentment of those who have some knowledge about the system. For example, a relative of mine is a social worker in Louisiana. She originally got into that line of work because she wanted to make a difference and help people.

She is now jaded and tells of people who have been in this situation for generations. They do not want to better themselves. They want to keep whatever freebies they have coming just like their parents and grandparents did.

Their ailment according to him: Years ago when I was working a night shift, one co-worker was giving another one a hard time: They just shined a light on the problem. I admire them greatly for that.

If the poor white or black trash Americans put in half as much effort as the illegals do day in and day out, this place would be much better off. Drgrad68 — I wrote you a long comment. I also had a bunch of links. So, to keep the moderator happy, I posted it as a comment at my blog.

I offer you the link, if you so desire to see my response:. Nice to meet ya, Laurel. I love info and I want to spread it far and wide. Actually, loathe is a strong word for me. These are also the sort of people who tend to be extremely controlling in relationships and more likely to physically or psychologically abuse women. I am genuinely curious. I know many from my own family, from the colleges I attended for my BA and MA, from various jobs and from my church.

I know social conservatives who are rich, poor, from rural areas and urban areas, from the U. I am wondering if your prejudice springs from a bad experience with one or two bad apples there are nasty folks from all parts of the political spectrum! I used to vote Democratic, but I finally matured and grew up and grew out of my ignorance of believing rich Liberals! No, I am truly voting for my interests, values, and morals!

What is it that your party offer you being on the low social economic ladder? What is it that offer you in terms of hope that your situation will get better. Such a stunning, sweeping, urgent piece of commentary, written in a language accessible to any poor white motherfucker. Thank you so much for writing this, Jonna! The wealthy elite, and their stooges, the Republicans, have assassinated all those of influence who were committed to economic equality. I thought they fell victim to a communist, a Palestinian [activist terrorist], and a white supremacist who all had guns, respectively.

Really they all fell victim to a communist, a Palestinian, and racist? It seems if you study history, guns are just a tool, the people behind them and their motives are what actually matter. Case in point, the last civil war was won by oppressed people with guns, thus their use of guns is the reason for the abolition of slavery and the enforcement of subsequent civil rights for freed blacks.

You are right on Desmond. Articles like this get us communicating and thinking seriously about change and what we can do. Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald, a communist sympathizer who, most likely, acted alone.

Martin Luther King was shot by James Earl Ray, a petty criminal with a long rap sheet who was known to strongly dislike black people. These are the guys who fired the guns. These were all political acts, but all evidence was that they were the acts of a single person. Each had sufficient motivation and ability to pull the trigger without any greater conspiracy. Gerald Ford was shot at twice by two unassociated unstable women, and Ronald Reagan was wounded by a mentally disturbed man who wanted to impress Jodie Foster.

Going farther back, President Garfield was shot by an mentally ill man who believed that the Vice President would reward him with a civil service job. All it takes is one person with a gun to assassinate somebody. I going to say the party i support is the American People, Please Im begging you just admit you are racist.

History; not the one you read in the class rooms of modern day Schools. Tell history in a way that its not offensive. Our country was founded on, how can i say this … On the backs of people, was stolen from people, denied and continue to be denied to others. So a few Greedy people can profit. For some one to talk about sin, I must ask this question.

Sir are you with out Sin, If so continue to throw stones. Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated not murdered! Kennedy was assassinated not murdered! These people where considered a threat not to a poor white man who disliked people of color or a terrorist. They was a threat to the people who wanted to keep the average American Male and Female from seeing the truth! When a person gains knowledge they are no longer ignorant they become aware. Book Smarts do not equal out to common sense, which is not really common any more.

You learn by sitting back and watching people, I do apologize for calling you a Racist but your remarks are in line to what this article is talking about that sense of being superior to others. Just rhanting is what you doing. I know its not Dump. We have bigger issues in America than kicking Muslims out of our country and Mexicans and what ever type of people he uses to gain favor.

Just look at all the HATE surrounding his campaign. Nothing good ever comes out of negativity. We as a country need to come together. Whats so different between the Poor and the Wealthy. We all Bleed the same color, We will all leave this earth when our time is up. I dare you to care about others, kindness is the biggest weapon of all. For you to feel the way you do I believe this article offended you. But what do I Know im just a poor motherfucker from a Slave State.

Excellent article, really hits the nail on the head in terms of the situation in America today. I have an interesting perspective to contribute, if I may. My father was much like one of the white underclass you mention. It was odd he even met and dated my mother Hispanic in the first place, but perhaps beauty got the better of him. My dad was an honest mechanic, and perhaps because of that he was always broke.

He made enough to keep the shop afloat which he built with his own hands, practically alone but not enough for much else. I spent my childhood in a rather strange dichotomy. One side was my Hispanic family who were well respected among the community in a poor, primarily Hispanic neighborhood, in a rather comfortable house with a large yard that was always bustling with my cousins, aunts, and uncles.

It was a comfortable life but money was never spent unless on something needed. The other side was my white family, consisting of my father, and my grandparents divorced, separated, and in different homes, yet who still hung around each other a lot for the sake of me and their sons.

My grandma lived in a four bedroom middle-class house in a nice area of town. My father, being uneducated barely finished high school , was unaware of the legal agreements ramifications. He basically handed everything over without any sort of guarantee that he would be entitled to its wealth or earnings later on.

At first things were good, as my dad worked for his best friend at his right-hand man, making comfortable amounts of money. It was during this time that he came into close contact with a primarily Mexican labor force. He developed a deep respect for their everyday struggle because he knew it was the same as his. This led to significant tension as my dad saw it as a betrayal. It was his property he had given up, and it was him who kept the business afloat by fixing machines when they broke, drilling foundation holes, keeping the other workers organized and directed.

He was truly a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-all type guy. Realizing it was a futile battle, he abandoned it all and walked away. He met an immigrant wife from Moldova who made him very happy in his final years his relationship with my mom was completely finished sometime during my high school years. He lived in a house in Gulf Breeze, FL, that was bought and paid for by my uncle also an airline pilot on the side. He had not a penny to his name when cancer took him in the spring of

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