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No, the car accident destroyed him. It ruined his looks and caused him to become hopelessly addicted to drugs and booze. It was the car accident. He felt like he never recovered his looks. It was the beginning of the end. The Bosworth biography says Monty was extremely embarrassed by his small penis and talked about it frequently with friends. The strangest part of that book was when he went with some straight friends down to the leather bar at the end of Christopher Street back in the 60s.

He went in by himself and eventually someone waiting in the car went in to retrieve him. He was on a pool table, semi-conscious, being pawed over by a crowd of leather men who were undressing him. The straight friend, scooped him up, put him back in the car, and got him out of there, much to Monty's chagrin I'm sure. Bosworth's bio of Monty is the gold standard for biographies. I still can't for the life of me really tell a difference between the pre and post crash Monty.

Everyone makes such a big deal about how he lost his looks. It's the same face! In his later films he looks a bit older and haggard, but he's certainly no elephant man.

I probably read it 30 years ago and still remember that. Didn't they take him down to some docks as well? I liked that and the scene when he performed Hamlet for his brother late at night on the beach. Sunny Clift always seemed like a good role. There's a great film bio of Clift to be made, if the right people ever get involved. It's bloody amazing that he continued to work after the accident. Not only was he absolutely hideous, his addictions had accelerated to the point that he could barely work through the day.

R12, he wasn't "absolutely hideous," he looked about the same. Not sure what you think is 'hideous. It was harder, less symmetrical, but hardly "hideous. But he was still handsome. He finished Raintree County once he healed in constant pain and you could see, shot for shot, the pre and post accident scenes filmed.

The tragedy is what the accident did to his self-image, self esteem and self confidence. R9, I find it odd that you can't tell. He was exceedingly handsome pre-accident. After the accident his face had noticeably changed, not ugly or hideous, just different. But it was perfect for The Misfits, where he was supposed to be something of a rough-hewn cowboy. I think the book said something about the left side of his face becoming somewhat paralyzed after the operations to fix his jaw.

Some nerve damage occured. Those pictures seem to be taken years apart. We need to see some before and after pics from Raintree County itself. I don't know that he was in the closet that much after a certain time in his life. If the book is to be believed, he was openly cruising guys and going to 'dangerous' places for man on man sex.

At one point his father visited his home as a surprise and found Monty in bed with several naked young men. His Mother and his brother knew that he was gay. I remember there was much speculation about Elizabeth and Monty getting married in all the old movie star magazines Yes, I'm an eldergay.

I am assuming that he told her what was up and she decided that they would just be good friends from then on. If you really read Patricia Bosworth's book OP, you would know that his mother and the car crash were the things that played a large part in Cliffs screwed up life.

His mother, in order to over-compensate for her illegitimate birth, went on a pointless and obsessive pursuit to get her and her children accepted by "society".

The endless task of jumping through hoops only to be rejected over and over again had to have messed with his head. Bosworth also points out that Cliff didn't really drink and never touched drugs until after the crash. His relationship with the overbearing and manipulative Libby Holman didn't help matters as well. R19, it could've been Lorenzo James, who Bosworth refers to as Clift's personal secretary, but in reality, some sources say, was his live-in boyfriend.

I worked for a man that grew up next door to Cliff in NYC. He said one day, when he was about 17 and home alone, Cliff showed up at his door. He was pretty loaded and kept complimenting my former boss about his belt buckle.

He then started trying to undo his belt and get his pants off. About then, his father came home and Cliff got the hell out of there. After he left, the father was freaking out because he was convinced Cliff was supplying his son with drugs.

It was very well known at that time Cliff was a junkie. R20 I just finished the Bosworth book and Clift was a terrible alcoholic before the accident. His friends would take him home and he would passed out and wet himself and they would have to clean him up and undress him for bed.

I'm guessing, going by my boss's age at the time he told me the story and the age he was when it happened, it was around the early to mid s, so I guess late 30s, early 40s. If I recall correctly. He left a small party where they were all drinking. Elizabeth Taylor told the story a few times she cradled him until the ambulance came.

I'll post an excerpt that explain the accident when I get home, but alcohol wasn't directly involved. Clift was being guided down a curving road by his friend on a foggy night. Clift lost all of the bone structure in his face because he broke so many bones in his face.

His looks were GONE. You'd never know he was as hot and handsome as he was in "A Place in the Sun. He was not believable as a romantic lead anymore.

Why anyone hired him is a mystery. And, no, he wasn't such big box office that they had to hire him. Being so impaired by drugs and drink, his acting talent wasn't a reason either. R18, according to Elizabeth, she knew his sexuality right away and never considered him as a romantic possibility. He was not closeted really in the times he lived.

He kind of did what he wanted- without nearly as much discretion or care to cover up, as say Rock Hudson did. Rock was not an addict, but he sure liked to drink. R13 While I agree with you that Cliffs looks were harmed by the crash, the picture you posted was taken many years after the wreck. What we are seeing there is not so much the damage caused by the crash, but damage caused by too much drink and drugs. Well, once he squealed in her ear like a little girl "I loved you in 'National Velvet.

Do you have Roddy McDowell's phone number? No, I don't think so. There were plenty of closeted actors around; I don't think many of them embarked on "slow suicide" like Clift did. His domineering, snooty mother fucked up his psyche long before he became famous.

Becoming rich and famous didn't help matters. In Bosworth's book she relates an incident where Clift told his mother "you are such a cunt, such a cunt! Whatever drinking or drug taking he did before the car crash, it was nowhere near as bad as after the accident. He was in terrible pain due to his injuries and tormented by the loss of his looks; he medicated himself into oblivion with drink and drugs. According to Bosworth's book he was hairy as an ape and had to periodically remove the pelts of hair from his arms and chest.

His face, formerly perfect, was completely different after the accident. He was no longer stunningly handsome; he was at best average, although some people described him as "disfigured. His good looks were, as one friend described it "one less thing for him to worry about.

I thought his performance as a mental defective in "Judgement at Nuremberg" was brilliant. He should have won the Oscar for it.

If only he and Judy Garland had ones Oscars for that movie! That really would have been something. Tammy Cruise was the re-incarnatia of Monty Cliff - the only reason Hollywood saw and potential in her.

I recall Clift having some rather deep facial scarring after the wreck, particularly on his left side. It was obvious even with movie makeup. Taylor got to him before the ambulance and she pulled some of his teeth out of his mouth so he could breathe.

I'm sure losing teeth didn't do much for his self-esteem. I don't know, but I always assumed those were his front teeth.

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Following objections from her family and friends that Leard was not "good enough" for her, Montgomery broke off her relationship with him. He died shortly afterwards of the flu. In , Montgomery moved back to Cavendish to live with her widowed grandmother. For a nine-month period between and , she worked in Halifax as a substitute proofreader for the newspapers Morning Chronicle and The Daily Echo.

Until her grandmother's death in March , Montgomery stayed in Cavendish to take care of her. This coincided with a period of considerable income from her publications. In , Montgomery published her first book, Anne of Green Gables. An immediate success, it established Montgomery's career, and she would write and publish material including numerous sequels to Anne continuously for the rest of her life. Anne of Green Gables was published in June and by November , the book had already gone through six printings.

Montgomery and presently the astronomers located her in the latitude of Prince Edward Island. No one would ever imagined that such a remote and unassertive speck on the map would ever produce such a writer whose first three books should one and all be included in the 'six best sellers'. But it was on this unemotional island that Anne of Green Gables was born This story was the work of a modest young school teacher, who was doubtless as surprised as any of her neighbors when she found her sweetly simple tale of childish joys and sorrows of a diminutive red-haired girl had made the literary hit of the season with the American public Miss Montgomery, who is entirely unspoiled by her unexpected stroke of fame and fortune, made her first visit to Boston last winter and was lionized to quite an extent, her pleasing personality making a decidedly favorable impression on all who met her It was all very nice and novel, but the young lady confided to her friends that she would be more than glad to get back to her quiet and uneventful country life and she would far prefer it as a regular thing even to a residence in Boston.

One of the most delightful of her Boston experiences was a lunch that was given her by a local publishing house that issues her books, a thoroughly Bostonian idea as well as a most creditable one Britain possesses as a cherished literacy shrine, the Isle of Man, but on this side of the ocean we have our Isle St. Jean, where, in good old summer time, as Anne Shirley found it on the day of her arrival, the gulf-cooled air is 'sweet with the breath of many apple orchards' and the meadows slope away in the romantic distance to 'horizon mist of pearl and purple'" [34].

In contrast to this publishers ideal image of her, Montgomery stated in a letter to a friend: Shortly after her grandmother's death in , she married Ewen spelled in her notes and letters as "Ewan" [37] Macdonald — , a Presbyterian minister , [4] and they moved to Ontario where he had taken the position of minister of St.

Paul's Presbyterian Church, Leaskdale in present-day Uxbridge Township , also affiliated with the congregation in nearby Zephyr. Montgomery wrote her next eleven books from the Leaskdale manse that she complained had neither a bathroom nor a toilet.

The Reverend Macdonald was not especially intelligent nor was he interested in literature as Montgomery was. The Macdonalds had three sons; the second was stillborn. Montgomery believed it was her duty as a woman to make her marriage work, though she quipped to a reporter during a visit to Scotland that those women whom God wanted to destroy He would make into the wives of ministers.

During the First World War, Montgomery, horrified by reports of the " Rape of Belgium " in , was an intense supporter of the war effort, seeing the war as a crusade to save civilization, regularly writing articles urging men to volunteer for the Canadian expeditionary force and for people on the home front to buy victory bonds.

Can they be true? They have committed terrible outrages and crimes, that is too surely true, but I hope desperately that these stories of the mutilation of children are false. They harrow my soul. I walk the floor in my agony over them. I cry myself to sleep about them and wake again in the darkness to cringe with the horror of it.

If it were Chester! In Leaskdale, like everywhere else in Canada, recruiting meetings were held where ministers, such as the Reverend MacDonald, would speak of Kaiser Wilhelm II as the personification of evil, described the "Rape of Belgium" in graphic detail, and asked for young men to step up to volunteer to fight for Canada, the British Empire, and for justice, in what was described at the time as a crusade against evil.

War is horrible, but there are things that are more horrible still, just as there are fates worse than death. Since women were playing an equal part to men in the war, it was unfair to give one the vote to one and deny the other. Montgomery identified very strongly with the Allied cause, leading her on 10 March to write in her diary: I seemed in my own soul to embrace all the anguish and strain of France. I was at peace. The conviction seized upon me that Verdun was safe-that the Germans would not pass the grim barrier of desperate France.

I was as a woman from whom some evil spirit had been driven-or can it be as a priestess of old, who out of depths of agony wins some strange foresight of the future? When she heard of the fall of Kut-al-Amara, she wrote in her diary on 1 May We have expected it for some time, but that did not prevent us from feeling very blue over it all.

It is an encouragement to the Germans and a blow to Britain's prestige. I feel too depressed tonight to do anything. As it went on, Lucy wrote in her diary "it unsettles him and he cannot do his work properly". Montgomery, a deeply religious woman, wrote in her diary: I also believe in a principle of Evil, equal to God in power I believe an infinite ceaseless struggle goes on between them.

Her journals show she was absolutely consumed by it, wracked by it, tortured by it, obsessed by it - even addicted to it. Montgomery underwent several periods of depression while trying to cope with the duties of motherhood and church life and with her husband's attacks of religious melancholia endogenous major depressive disorder and deteriorating health: The drug counters were besieged with frantic people seeking remedies and safeguards".

I never felt so sick or weak in my life", going on to express thanks to God and her friends for helping her survive the ordeal. After the First World War, a recurring character in Montgomery's journal that was to obsess her for the rest of her life was "the Piper", who at first appeared as a heroic Highlander piper from Scotland, leading men into battle while playing traditional Highland tunes, but who turned out to be the Pied Piper of Hamelin , a trickster taking children away from their parents forever.

The Reverend Ewen MacDonald, a good Calvinist who believed in predestination, had become convinced that he was not one of "the Elect" chosen by God to go to Heaven, leading him to spend hours depressed and staring into space. Well, if she had a picture of me in my old dress, wresting with the furniture this morning, "cussing" the ashes and clinkers, she would die of disillusionment.

However, I shall send her a reprint of my last photo in which I sat in rapt inspiration — apparently — at my desk, with pen in my hand, in gown of lace and silk with hair so — Amen.

A quite passable woman, of no kin whatever to the dusty, ash-covered Cinderella of the furnace-cellar. For much of her life, writing was her one great solace.

Montgomery believed her spells of depression and migraine headaches she suffered from were both expressions of her suppressed romantic passions and Leard's ghost haunting her. Starting in , Montgomery was engaged in five bitter, costly, and burdensome lawsuits with Louis Coues Page , owner of the publishing house L. Montgomery hired a lawyer in Boston and sued Page in the Massachusetts Court of Equity for illegally withholding royalties due her and for selling the U.

S rights to Anne's House of Dreams that he did not possess. In , the house that Montgomery grew up in Cavendish was torn down by her uncle, who complained too many tourists who coming on to the property to see the house that inspired the house in which Anne was depicted as growing up in. In , Montgomery was infuriated with the film version of Anne of Green Gables for changing Anne from a Canadian to an American, writing in her diary:.

The landscape and folks were 'New England', never P. A skunk and an American flag were introduced — both equally unknown in PE Island. I could have shrieked with rage over the latter. Such crass, blatant Yankeeism! Montgomery", who is only mentioned in passing two-thirds into the article with the major focus being on the film's star Mary Miles Minter , who was presented as the true embodiment of Anne.

Page had acquired the film rights to the story in , and as such, all of the royalties paid by Hollywood for both versions of Anne of Green Gables went to him, not Montgomery.

Other series written by Montgomery include the "Emily" and "Pat" books, which, while successful, did not reach the same level of public acceptance as the "Anne" volumes. She also wrote a number of stand-alone novels, which were also generally successful, if not as successful as her Anne books. On 20 August , Montgomery started writing what became the novel Emily of the New Moon as she planned to replace Anne with Emily as the star of new series of novels. One aspect that Emily, Anne and Montgomery all shared was "the flash"-the mystical power that Montgomery called in Emily of the New Moon "the wonderful moment when the soul seemed to cast aside the bonds of the flesh and spring upward towards the stars", allowing the soul to see "behind the veil" to a transcendent beauty.

In , a Massachusetts court ruled in favor of Montgomery against her publisher Louis Coues Page, as the judge found that he had systemically cheated her out of the profits from the Anne books since In terms of sales, both in her lifetime and since, Montgomery was the most successful Canadian author of all time, but because her books were seen as children's books and as women's books, she was often dismissed by the critics, who saw Montgomery as merely a writer for schoolgirls, and not as a serious writer.

In , Ewen MacDonald became estranged from his folk when he opposed his church joining the United Church of Canada , and was involved in an incident when he nearly ran over a Methodist minister who was promoting the union.

Had he not been a minister, he almost certainly would have been charged with attempted murder. In , Montgomery's extremely depressed husband signed himself into a sanatorium in Guelph. In , Montgomery published Pat of the Silver Bush , which reflected a move towards more "adult" stories for young people.

Not externally , but spiritually she is I". Bosworth also points out that Cliff didn't really drink and never touched drugs until after the crash. His relationship with the overbearing and manipulative Libby Holman didn't help matters as well.

R19, it could've been Lorenzo James, who Bosworth refers to as Clift's personal secretary, but in reality, some sources say, was his live-in boyfriend. I worked for a man that grew up next door to Cliff in NYC. He said one day, when he was about 17 and home alone, Cliff showed up at his door. He was pretty loaded and kept complimenting my former boss about his belt buckle. He then started trying to undo his belt and get his pants off. About then, his father came home and Cliff got the hell out of there.

After he left, the father was freaking out because he was convinced Cliff was supplying his son with drugs. It was very well known at that time Cliff was a junkie.

R20 I just finished the Bosworth book and Clift was a terrible alcoholic before the accident. His friends would take him home and he would passed out and wet himself and they would have to clean him up and undress him for bed. I'm guessing, going by my boss's age at the time he told me the story and the age he was when it happened, it was around the early to mid s, so I guess late 30s, early 40s.

If I recall correctly. He left a small party where they were all drinking. Elizabeth Taylor told the story a few times she cradled him until the ambulance came. I'll post an excerpt that explain the accident when I get home, but alcohol wasn't directly involved. Clift was being guided down a curving road by his friend on a foggy night.

Clift lost all of the bone structure in his face because he broke so many bones in his face. His looks were GONE. You'd never know he was as hot and handsome as he was in "A Place in the Sun. He was not believable as a romantic lead anymore. Why anyone hired him is a mystery. And, no, he wasn't such big box office that they had to hire him. Being so impaired by drugs and drink, his acting talent wasn't a reason either.

R18, according to Elizabeth, she knew his sexuality right away and never considered him as a romantic possibility. He was not closeted really in the times he lived. He kind of did what he wanted- without nearly as much discretion or care to cover up, as say Rock Hudson did. Rock was not an addict, but he sure liked to drink. R13 While I agree with you that Cliffs looks were harmed by the crash, the picture you posted was taken many years after the wreck.

What we are seeing there is not so much the damage caused by the crash, but damage caused by too much drink and drugs. Well, once he squealed in her ear like a little girl "I loved you in 'National Velvet.

Do you have Roddy McDowell's phone number? No, I don't think so. There were plenty of closeted actors around; I don't think many of them embarked on "slow suicide" like Clift did. His domineering, snooty mother fucked up his psyche long before he became famous. Becoming rich and famous didn't help matters. In Bosworth's book she relates an incident where Clift told his mother "you are such a cunt, such a cunt!

Whatever drinking or drug taking he did before the car crash, it was nowhere near as bad as after the accident. He was in terrible pain due to his injuries and tormented by the loss of his looks; he medicated himself into oblivion with drink and drugs.

According to Bosworth's book he was hairy as an ape and had to periodically remove the pelts of hair from his arms and chest. His face, formerly perfect, was completely different after the accident. He was no longer stunningly handsome; he was at best average, although some people described him as "disfigured. His good looks were, as one friend described it "one less thing for him to worry about. I thought his performance as a mental defective in "Judgement at Nuremberg" was brilliant.

He should have won the Oscar for it. If only he and Judy Garland had ones Oscars for that movie! That really would have been something. Tammy Cruise was the re-incarnatia of Monty Cliff - the only reason Hollywood saw and potential in her.

I recall Clift having some rather deep facial scarring after the wreck, particularly on his left side. It was obvious even with movie makeup. Taylor got to him before the ambulance and she pulled some of his teeth out of his mouth so he could breathe.

I'm sure losing teeth didn't do much for his self-esteem. I don't know, but I always assumed those were his front teeth. Clift was a notorious drunk before the wreck. It may have provided him with an excuse for staying drunk afterward, but it wasn't the cause.

Not the whole story, r Clift was malnourished in the photo from The Defector. Or as we say today, anorexic. Interestingly, the publisher's lawyers Harcourt Brace made Bosworth delete some of the best material in the book.

She really had some amazing scenes about the gay life in New York, and Clift's piss fetish, etc. But some of the scenes involved people who were still alive in the late s.

Whatever his looks or demeanor, he remaains one of the few true movie stars with that certain aura or charismaa or indefinable "it" that served him until the end. He remains mesmerizing to watch. Here are side by side comparison shots of Monty during the filming of "Raintree County".

On the left, in a scene from the movie, Monty at 36 already looks aged, but still possesses the boyish handsomeness of earlier years. On the right, in a studio publicity shot, with his face reconstructed, elements of his face look familiar, but for the most part he's barely recognizable. Thanks R44 for posting that. That is a remarkable difference. Aside from how the whole structure of his face is changed, there is a real vacant look in his eyes in the after pic.

It's like watching Carrie Fisher in Return of the Jedi. You can just tell there are unknown quantities of drugs racing through his bloodstream.

Bosworth also said he got electrolysis treatments. I saw a picture of him barechested; he must not have taken care of the hair problem for a while, because his chest was hairy as a gorilla's.

This was later in his life, after the car crash. I guess he just didn't give a fuck anymore. Nair and some other hair removal products were on the market back then. It's possible he used something like that. I don't see anything wrong with him having a small dick, as long as he was submissive and knew his place.

I recall reading something in the NY Post circa from a book -- someone in the NYC morgue commented how small Clift's dick was as he was lying dead on a slab. I can tell the difference, of course, between Monty pre- and post-accident.

And perhaps Monty had difficulty dealing with his loss of looks. But he certainly wasn't hideous, and it's quite possible that his loss of looks was more a function of aging than his being an accident survivor. His loss of looks post-accident was similar to the loss of looks Tyrone Power experienced as he matured. Count me as another gay Helen Keller who really doesn't see much of a difference in how he looked. It certainly seems like the same man. It's not like I would watch him onscreen and think who the hell is that.

Methinks much of the supposed difference in the visage is more due to knowledge of his accident and then searching for minute flaws and changes. And I never thought he was that handsome to begin with. He was no Errol Flynn in the looks department. R58 - Clift's loss of looks was a result of natural aging combined with a poor diet and years of drug and alcohol abuse.

When he appeared in "The Young Lions," which was post-accident, his face had settled and he was starting to look good again. But by the time the '60s rolled along, he looked worse for wear. In "The Misfits" and "Judgment at Nuremburg" he looked twice his age.

Also in late '50s or early '60s he had work done around his eyes which gave him an unflattering beady-eye look. All the nonsense aside about his cock and looks, he was imho the greatest actor of his generation from "The Search" up to and including "The Misfits. I always felt that when watching Clift there was something radiating from inside that was almost eerie. I do know Brando revered him, and if I am not mistaken, got the part of Terry Malone because Clift was not interested.

According to the Bosworth book Clift and Brando had a rivalry and were not close. However once Clift began to destroy himself Brando made an unexpected visit to him and begged him to get help. Monty, of course, believed he was drinking and taking sedatives in order to survive - to survive his success, his fame, his dreams of greater power and achievement.

He would sometimes say the pressures in his life made him drink more, but he would never admit that drinking was causing pressure - nor would he admit to the conflict he was continuing to have about his sexual identity.

I just read in this week's Newsweek that Eleanor Clift was married to Monty's brother whom she said basically walked off the set of Mad Men the whole issue is dedicated to the look and feel of MM era. I somehow never knew that link. The studio did not approve, and at Oscar promo time they backed his co-star Burt Lancaster, who wasn't drinking himself into a career implosion. Of course having two nominees split the vote and neither won, but that should have been Clift's Oscar - the year he was brilliant in a big critical and financial hit.

He needed constant sexual reassurance, and he was able to get that from men more easily than women. According to Ben Bagley, Monty had a small penis and was extremely embarrassed about it. A lot of homosexuals gossiped about Monty's problem because gays but great importance on the size of their cocks. I couldn't care less if the stud had "tiny meat.

I assume he was a bottom, and would have been honored to be his co-dependent top if a bit effeminate, I am. I wish Elizabeth Taylor had written a memoir. Although I gather he was generally submissive sexually, I seem to recall reading somewhere about an incident when he flipped out on a sex partner and whipping the man with a belt. Wasn't his jaw wired after the accident? I think alot of the difference came from heavy alcoholism and drug use. Added the miserable life he lead.

He really wanted an Oscar. I have an old documentary in which he drunkenly tells his brother Brooks in a phone call, how he feels he shoud get one for Judgement At Nuremburg. Didn't Brooks die quite some time ago? I don't think he was as closeted as speculated. The pool hall story, in which Monty is being man handled and his driver has to "rescue" him and drag him out, wasn't that in the Laguardia bio?

For the time, I think the surgeons did a pretty good job of wiring him up. Adorable as Monty was, I would have never tolerated a beating with a belt. Poor guy, I think he was just plain "worn out. His older brother was something of a hot mess. Multiple children with multiple wives and never seemed to make a success out of anything, careerwise. At one point he appeared on a late night talk show Johnny Carson?

The brother's daughter was accused of shooting and killing her abusive lover and the father of her baby. Alas, it's a terrible film, which nonetheless features really brilliant performances from Clift, Marilyn, Gable, the ever sublime Thelma Ritter, even Eli Wallach. Marilyn needs to turn down the Method a notch, but it's really her most devastating and moving performance.

Too bad it sounds like he was a pompous self-important ass who took his "art" way too seriously, not to mention such a dangerously self-loathing queer that he brutally destroyed himself. I have lots and lots of sympathy for those closet cases from two generations before mine, and Monty came into his maturity in the moment in which homophobia was most intensely rampant in the US, and nearly a part of the American Way.

It wasn't just permitted, it was encouraged; no, it was mandated. Being American meant, among other things, feeling murderously angry towards faggots. But he was an alcoholic, and like many alkies, he was an abuser who abused not just drink but other people. In many ways, he sounds like Jack Kerouac, another closet case addict from that era.

Indeed, Monty was only two years older than Kerouac. Those guys - those queers with ambivalent feelings about their own sexuality - were just totally fucked by America. Brando was the original Brando. Why must people form a thread of actors that begin and end with one? Monty was the first of the sensitive, emotional, and heartbreaking actors. The method and non method. I don't think Brando was as complex. Brando, emotional, senstive, heartbreak, and brutal. Brando may have acredited Monty or tried to emulate his acting, he could not have achieved Monty's vulnerability nor his perceived inner pan.

Once can see it as early as The Heiress. I don't think Brando used Monty's method. Monty did not have that. Maybe if he did, he would have lasted longer. Bosworth would be a fine biographer if she did not print gossip. The Jane Fonda book, not unlike the Clift biography, are both well researched, but sadly full of innuendo and BS. It must be the mean spirited and small minded Actors Studio nonsense. Yes, I see where you are coming from. There is a complexity to Clift when you watch his performances.

If you do a search, there is a funny--and acidic--comment by Hitchcock about directing Clift in "I Confess. The film is so underappreciated. I know this sounds like heresy, but I consider as good as "Vertigo. What is so often overlooked about Taylor is just how great she was when cast in the right role with the right director.

He would have been good if he were years younger. Waaaay too old and old looking for the part. R91, we all know who Marilyn Monroe was. That's why you didn't feel the need to use her last name. And most of us know what she was or wasn't.

At least, we know as much about her as we feel the need to know. How sad and creepy to call her a whore so gratuitously. Are you just afraid of all women? Or ashamed of your lack of sexual attraction to them? Small penis turns you into a pill head alcoholic? People need to be able to accept their short comings.

He was beautiful till he had his accident. That did change his face. Why didn't an accident like that happen to someone like Charlie Sheen, instead of Monty? Since Montgomery Clift seemed to be messed up after the accident, addicted to alcohol and pain killers, lost his looks it kind of makes you wonder if James Dean would have been the same had he survived the accident he was in.

I generally think a lot of him, but I've never understood why people praise him so highly for From Here to Eternity. To me, he's horribly miscast in that role, and he doesn't know what to do except shuffle through it with a dazed look on his face. He isn't believable as either a boxer or a great bugle player, he has zero spark with Donna Reed although quite a bit with Sinatra , and no matter how many times they say it, you never buy the fact that he's this great soldier who loves the Army and thinks of it as his home.

Sorry, he just doesn't have it in that movie. According to Darwin Porter, the Diogenes of our time, Merv Griffin occasionally witnessed Sinatra and Clift spooning naked although no sex was reported to have taken place , and observed the remarkable difference in the sizes of their penises. No Sinatra got along great with Monty during FHTE, but apparently he broke with him after he saw Monty put the moves on one of his friends. I'll see if I can find the quote when I get home.

Clift helped Sinatra with his character, his lines, his acting. The two were inseparable drinking buddies. At least during the filming. I don't know when Sinatra found out that Clift was gay, if he always knew, or if he at some point decided he disapproved. Can anyone shed some light on their relationship. He admired great talent and that would get people a free pass with him.

When I was younger late 70s I think , I remember my mother borrowed a biography from the library that had several pictures of a shirtless Monty taken by friends as well as beach scenes. Any idea which biography included these shirtless photos? R, God why do people even bother referencing Darwin Porter? The man cannot be trusted with telling the slightest truth. There are plenty of year-old guys wandering lost and alone around the far reaches of the US, calling home to their moms.

His being clearly a guy in his late 30s adds to the poignancy and tragic-ness of his being a guy who is still calling home to Mom from payphones across Nevada. He is playing a queer character. The dude is obviously a fucked-up alcoholic closet-queer, sort of Biff Loman ten years later, except with a mom fixation rather than a daddy fixation. If you have never done any hitchhiking around the American West, you perhaps don't know that it's jammed with BROKEBACK-y middle-aged fags who were never able to come out, and who have been leading fly-by-night lives in sad and lonely corners of the desert landscape and the human psyche.

I'm another one who doesn't think his looks changed all that much after the accident--what he really lost in it were the extremely prominent cheek bones, but it's not as if his face utterly collapsed without them. But he was not aging that well anyway even just before the accident if you look at the "before" picture in the side-by-side Raintree County pictures posted above --some very good looking people just don't age well after a certain point.

To me his acting is a real acquired taste. Sometimes his hesitation and twitchiness really gets on my nerves: But his best performances for me were all before the accident--in "Red River" and "A Place in the Sun. R - "Clift is perfect for that part. Yes, his name in the movie is Purse!

R, that could the the book called Monty by Robert LaGuardia. There are some small pics of him on the beach. That book is a bit gossipy and much of it is taken with a grain of salt but it is entertaining and gets into the more seedy side of Clift.

Sinatra didn't like it and had Monty tossed out. I remember seeing him in that film Miss Lonelyhearts, and every time he sat down, he winced in pain. I felt so horrible for him. I think post-accident he started to look bloated. In the last film he made, he was thin and quite handsome, I thought. I have known several people who became addicted to painkillers and alcohol after devastating accidents - one friend lost his arm in a car accident - it's pretty awful.

If I want a good laugh I read Darwin Porter. I love all the exact conversations he reports on when he wasn't there and didn't know any of the people. He was great in The Misfits but the accident he had that messed up his face, did make him look older, not to mention the drugs.

Bosworth's book or maybe it was one of the other Clift bios ends with the people who bought his NYC townhouse agreeing to keep a previously installed plaque up that says something to the effect of "Montgomery Clift lived here" on the building's exterior but, fearing an endless parade of looky-loos, discreetly planted some shrubbery or a tree that effectively masked it from passersby on the street.

After all these years, is the plaque still there? New Yorkers, go forth and report back. Inquiring minds want to know! Berle not only talked about his penis, he'd occasionally show people -- but just enough of it to prove his point.

I feel sorry for anyone who loves you, because apparently everything you say is right, whether you can offer proof or not.

There's not much info on him besides what's in Bosworth's book For a while they phoned each other constantly, and they drank together in Hollywood and New York.

He played his records until they wore out, he kept his photography in a place of honor in his duplex, and he showed off the gold lighter Sinatra had given him on Christmas that was engraved "Merry merry buddy boy. I'm with you all the way. Sinatra witnessed the incident and he had his bodyguards thrown Monty out of the party. Didn't he lug that Libby Holman kook around to every movie set as his acting coach and painfully parse every line of dialogue in that failed and duller than dishwater "Method" style, until it drove everyone batty?

It's acting, not a heart-lung transplant! Seriously, every one of his performances is entirely overwrought! R, No, you're thinking of Mira Rostova, but he stopped bringing her to sets after her disastrous performance of Nina in Chekhov's "The Seagull" off-Broadway. The lady simply was better at teaching acting than actually acting. Clift turned down "Sunset Blvd" because of his relationship with Libby Get off the surface.

Stop talking about him being gorgeous and then, after the accident, ugly. Up there with Brando, Dean and Newman. No one remembers William Holden? I'm sure many people remember William Holden but probably not to many here.

His dick didn't get enough publicity it got alot of action though, just straight action. They did kiss, grope and possibly sleep together. Elizabeth said in an interview I watched on Youtube "one day I was kissing Monty and I realized he should be kissing a man, not me".

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