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My husband is talking to someone in Springfield, Il about a job. That would mean relocating. We have relocated within the midwest, 5 times in the past 15 years. I have been looking up any and all information I could find to try to make this life changing decision. My husband will need to make about 10K more according to the salary calculator. I am worried about things I cannot change, such as the quality of education, crime and drugs in and out of the schools.

We love the arts and the idea of moving to a blue state. We have two "gifted" children going into 5th and 6th grade. We can't afford a private school. I read some pretty negative things on the Internet.

Of course, we will visit your city to get our own gut feeling. However, your honest opinions, suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated! I lived in Springfield most of my life and I can honestly tell you I am not a big fan of the city.

I have never raised children there but all of my ex-coworkers fled to the outskirts so their children could go to Rochester or Chatham schools. This isn't a burden as they are very close to the city but it does reflect upon the city schools. There isn't a ton of things to do in Springfield.

For arts there is the muni and the UIS auditorium shows. The city itself isn't planned out well. It's not as easy to get from one side to the other as it is in many other cities. It's full of chain restaurants not my cup of tea but to each his own and there is decent shopping around.

The state fair is there every year but its the same thing every year pretty much. There are some nice parks. The downtown area is pretty nice. As for crime Springfield has more than its fair share.

I don't find the city itself appealing when I drive through it. The architecture is bland and many of the main drags have check cashing stores or some run down hotels along them. I always thought it was sad when people drove into the city off 6th St, South Grand or Clearlake 3 of the exits off 55 into Spfld and their first image of the city was to see all these shady areas.

Springfield has a low cost of living and some nice neighborhoods that still have block parties and such which does give it a hometown feeling if you live there. It's close to St Louis and not too far from Chicago or Indianapolis for getaways. The airport is decent and I think the prices have gotten a little better. If you want to email me I would be happy to answer any other specific questions about the city.

Tim is correct about the first impressions. But this is really a nice town. I came here in January of with the idea that it would be another line along an already long resume, and I'd be gone in 2 years. Clearly, something other than that woman I met on March 10, , has captivated me. There are a few very nice parks, a wonderful lake for boating, it's historical, we have a superb symphony orchestra, Muni Opera and theater center, and a fine ballet company. As mentioned, the auditorium at the University of Illinois -Springfield doe have probably 10 quite diverse entertainers a year.

Probably the main thing which keeps me here is the people. Although loaded with Germans who usually keep to themselves, these folks are very welcoming and friendly.

Sports is kind of a weak point. Now, an update on the airport. It's too close to St. As a result, that airport as well as Central Illinois Regional in Bloomington , and Peoria Regional have taken much of the ridership.

We have no flights to St. Louis at this time. Those ended months ago and American Airlines has been saying we'll have limited service ever since, but so far nothing. There are a few flights jet to Chicago O'Hare on United. United has one flight late in the day direct to Washington, D. Allegiant Air will be starting a twice weekly direct to Las Vegas.

But they also fly out of Peoria, and will be starting flights from Champaign. The good news is that Springfield is only an hour to the Bloomington airport, about the same to Peoria, and about 1: Bloomington doesn't charge for parking. The above mentioned "bedroom" communities are excellent and while the Springfield public schools have improved lately, there's a long way to go. I live in the Rochester school district, but live in the city of Springfield You might want to at least investigate parochial schools.

We're not well to do and we put both of our kids through the Lutheran school system. There are Lutheran, Catholic, and a couple of Christian churches which operate schools. Springfield is a pretty good area if you are talking about participating in the performing arts.

There are several local theater groups, both for kids and for adults. The Illinois Symphony which Springfield shares with Bloomington , but they are based here There isn't a college arts program here right now, but University of Illinois-Springfield seems to be working on it. Look up the Hoogland Center for the Arts website to see what else I might be missing.

The cost of living here is relatively low, I'm not sure where you live that you need to make 10K more to make up for the COL. Gas is expensive in Illinois, though. As for the schools.

I have some friends who have kids in Springfield Highschool - doing very well. I know another family that just moved to Sherman so their kids could transfer to the Williamsville district. Chatham used to be 'the place' to move for the schools, until too many people did, and they didn't keep up. Rochester is now the 'it place' but may soon suffer the same fate as Chatham. The Pleasant Plains district is west of the city, and is getting some really good press from the medical community who are fleeing the city to the new neighborhoods on the far west side of the city.

Riverton Schools just built a new wing on their highschool including a new auditoruim, which is really nice, and have really good sports teams, but the area has been known as blue-collared and a little inbred - that's changing. As for us - we homeschool - so it may be that my opinion is a little skewed.

Crime and drugs are in just about all the schools everywhere, and if you don't think so, you are kidding yourself. Stay away from Lamphier Highschool, and look carefully at the middleschool programs you are considering, you'll do OK. Driving in Springfield is very easy. We live 16 miles from my DH's work and that is 20 minutes. I drive quite often in Chicago , Peoria , and Champaign - and am amazed at how polite Springfield drivers are. Hi Redhawk, I was born in Springfield and have lived here for 56 years, and I agree with some of the other posters comments, and disagree with some.

In my opinion, Springfield is not a bad place to live. Our housing costs are considered to be very reasonable. According to my California relatives I know that real estate is very expensive in CA , my house would sell for close to half a million in CA As far as education, my kids all attended Springfield schools and so did my husband and I with no problems at all, but that was 15 - 20 years ago. I'm sure there are drugs in all of the Springfield schools, and undoubtedly there are the same problems at the bedroom community schools.

In fact, it is my understanding that the Chatham School District where many of the wealthier families send their kids has a pretty significant drug problem, or at least did a few years ago. However, just like my kids said back in the early 90's, anyone who wants to buy drugs, regardless of where they attend school, always knows who is dealing drugs at their school.

I do agree that out of our high schools here in Springfield, Lanphier would be the least desirable. As far as crime, I have to disagree with Timmy 's statement that Springfield has more than it's fair share of crime. Most of the crime that goes on in Springfield is on the east side, as he says, and undoubtedly drug related, or domestic violence related, etc. If you plan to come to Springfield, get on welfare and move into Section 8 housing then you may encounter crime issues.

For the average, law abiding citizen, you don't have anything to worry about. Crime is almost non-existent on the west side of town or anywhere other than the east side. For a city with a population of well over ,, I'd say that our crime rate is very, very low. In fact, I'm not even sure if we have had a single murder so far this year. I just looked at our Police Beat section of the local newspaper, and the only crime reports for yesterday, 4th of July, were for underage drinking at a party and one domestic violence incident where a woman hit her boyfriend in the head with an ashtray.

We have two very highly rated hospitals, Memorial Medical Center and St. Memorial has a wonderful burn unit, and St. John's has a highly rated neo-natal ward. I'm also confused about the comment that Springfield is not well laid out and it is hard to get from one side of town to the other.

This doesn't make much sense to me.

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If you want to email me I would be happy to answer any other specific questions about the city. Tim is correct about the first impressions. But this is really a nice town. I came here in January of with the idea that it would be another line along an already long resume, and I'd be gone in 2 years.

Clearly, something other than that woman I met on March 10, , has captivated me. There are a few very nice parks, a wonderful lake for boating, it's historical, we have a superb symphony orchestra, Muni Opera and theater center, and a fine ballet company. As mentioned, the auditorium at the University of Illinois -Springfield doe have probably 10 quite diverse entertainers a year. Probably the main thing which keeps me here is the people. Although loaded with Germans who usually keep to themselves, these folks are very welcoming and friendly.

Sports is kind of a weak point. Now, an update on the airport. It's too close to St. As a result, that airport as well as Central Illinois Regional in Bloomington , and Peoria Regional have taken much of the ridership.

We have no flights to St. Louis at this time. Those ended months ago and American Airlines has been saying we'll have limited service ever since, but so far nothing. There are a few flights jet to Chicago O'Hare on United. United has one flight late in the day direct to Washington, D. Allegiant Air will be starting a twice weekly direct to Las Vegas. But they also fly out of Peoria, and will be starting flights from Champaign.

The good news is that Springfield is only an hour to the Bloomington airport, about the same to Peoria, and about 1: Bloomington doesn't charge for parking. The above mentioned "bedroom" communities are excellent and while the Springfield public schools have improved lately, there's a long way to go. I live in the Rochester school district, but live in the city of Springfield You might want to at least investigate parochial schools.

We're not well to do and we put both of our kids through the Lutheran school system. There are Lutheran, Catholic, and a couple of Christian churches which operate schools.

Springfield is a pretty good area if you are talking about participating in the performing arts. There are several local theater groups, both for kids and for adults. The Illinois Symphony which Springfield shares with Bloomington , but they are based here There isn't a college arts program here right now, but University of Illinois-Springfield seems to be working on it.

Look up the Hoogland Center for the Arts website to see what else I might be missing. The cost of living here is relatively low, I'm not sure where you live that you need to make 10K more to make up for the COL. Gas is expensive in Illinois, though. As for the schools. I have some friends who have kids in Springfield Highschool - doing very well. I know another family that just moved to Sherman so their kids could transfer to the Williamsville district. Chatham used to be 'the place' to move for the schools, until too many people did, and they didn't keep up.

Rochester is now the 'it place' but may soon suffer the same fate as Chatham. The Pleasant Plains district is west of the city, and is getting some really good press from the medical community who are fleeing the city to the new neighborhoods on the far west side of the city. Riverton Schools just built a new wing on their highschool including a new auditoruim, which is really nice, and have really good sports teams, but the area has been known as blue-collared and a little inbred - that's changing.

As for us - we homeschool - so it may be that my opinion is a little skewed. Crime and drugs are in just about all the schools everywhere, and if you don't think so, you are kidding yourself. Stay away from Lamphier Highschool, and look carefully at the middleschool programs you are considering, you'll do OK. Driving in Springfield is very easy. We live 16 miles from my DH's work and that is 20 minutes.

I drive quite often in Chicago , Peoria , and Champaign - and am amazed at how polite Springfield drivers are. Hi Redhawk, I was born in Springfield and have lived here for 56 years, and I agree with some of the other posters comments, and disagree with some.

In my opinion, Springfield is not a bad place to live. Our housing costs are considered to be very reasonable. According to my California relatives I know that real estate is very expensive in CA , my house would sell for close to half a million in CA As far as education, my kids all attended Springfield schools and so did my husband and I with no problems at all, but that was 15 - 20 years ago.

I'm sure there are drugs in all of the Springfield schools, and undoubtedly there are the same problems at the bedroom community schools. In fact, it is my understanding that the Chatham School District where many of the wealthier families send their kids has a pretty significant drug problem, or at least did a few years ago.

However, just like my kids said back in the early 90's, anyone who wants to buy drugs, regardless of where they attend school, always knows who is dealing drugs at their school.

I do agree that out of our high schools here in Springfield, Lanphier would be the least desirable. As far as crime, I have to disagree with Timmy 's statement that Springfield has more than it's fair share of crime. Most of the crime that goes on in Springfield is on the east side, as he says, and undoubtedly drug related, or domestic violence related, etc. If you plan to come to Springfield, get on welfare and move into Section 8 housing then you may encounter crime issues. For the average, law abiding citizen, you don't have anything to worry about.

Crime is almost non-existent on the west side of town or anywhere other than the east side. For a city with a population of well over ,, I'd say that our crime rate is very, very low.

In fact, I'm not even sure if we have had a single murder so far this year. I just looked at our Police Beat section of the local newspaper, and the only crime reports for yesterday, 4th of July, were for underage drinking at a party and one domestic violence incident where a woman hit her boyfriend in the head with an ashtray.

We have two very highly rated hospitals, Memorial Medical Center and St. Memorial has a wonderful burn unit, and St. John's has a highly rated neo-natal ward.

I'm also confused about the comment that Springfield is not well laid out and it is hard to get from one side of town to the other. This doesn't make much sense to me. If you were on the east side of town and needed to get to the west side where our mall is and many restaurants, etc. In my opinion, what Springfield is most lacking in is entertainment. There doesn't seem to be a lot to do here other than go to movies or shop. We do have a very good municipal opera that has productions during the summer months, and occasionally get good performances at the university auditorium, but there's not much else to do.

Fortunately, we are close enough to St. Louis that it is easy to go there for a nice weekend trip. I don't think that Springfield is an especially attractive city, but no offense, I've been thru Cape Girardeau and what I saw of it wasn't too attractive either, although I have only been on the outskirts.

If you are looking for an affordable place to live with minimal crime, Springfield will be fine. If you are looking for an exciting place to live, you should probably look elsewhere. I am a transplant from the East Coast and have been here about 13 years.

I don't know what Timmy's thing is or when he was last here , but this city is good and always working on improving itself. We are the home of Abraham Lincoln. Springfield has, in recent years, started taking note of the city's history and has restored some sites to celebrate them i.

We also have many museums including the State Museum and others which are eclectic, like the Museum of Funeral Customs. Others have mentioned some of the arts programs we have here and we are always getting more stuff. We have a wonderful community theater and a rather new Center for the Arts in which there are performances from everything from the Springfield Ballet Company to avant-garde plays. The University of Illinois at Springfield also offers experimental theater, artist's series performances, Broadway traveling shows, and other activities such as the Illinois Symphony Orchestra.

You will not be bereft of culture here- you just have to go and experience it- don't wait for it to come to you! There is a lovely annual art festival downtown as well as others held throughout the year in different venues such as the Art Society's art fair held on the grounds of the Art Society.

We have parades, Christmas walks, and many other functions held downtown throughout the year. We lived on the central west side by one of our great parks, Washington Park and now live in a great subdivision by the lake. Both places are great places to live. We have no kids but the school district we are in is Chatham. Our citizens have a much higher than average education we are the home to SIU School of Medicine and have children who attend public schools in Springfield.

A lot of these people are graduates of Springfield public schools and or send their children there. No matter how good the school, your kids could be slackers or motivated students; it's their choice. Since your kids are gifted, they can take advantage of the great programs for gifted students offered by Springfield or surrounding school districts.

The city is the state capitol which brings many different opportunities to the city. You will find some of the entertainment here greatly above par for a city of our size. Speaking of "par," we also have a lot of great golf courses as well as tennis courts, etc.

I can't tell you all that this city has to offer in a post but some of the things above are available opportunities that are there for the asking. I know that the crime statistics for Springfield are high on some websites, but as was stated before me, crime is pretty centered on the East side of the city.

I have never been uncomfortable at all going to a store at midnight alone or driving with my car top down through ANY neighborhood, even on the main roads that run through the East side. In my neighborhood, we can forget and leave our garage doors open or a door unlocked by mistake and not really have to worry about being robbed.

Most people lock their doors, etc. Please give this fair city a chance. You will know your neighbors and feel safe in your home. Your kids will get a good education.

We have a med school, a university, a college, and a nationally ranked community college. Many people will complain that 'there's nothing to do' but those are usually the people who think everyone and everything should come to them. It's all here - you just need to take advantage of what's offered! My wife leaves the garage door up and I close it when I get home from work in my Camaro convertible about I'm not sure that I have a "thing" homeless girl I was just giving my opinion of the city.

I lived in Springfield most of my life up until a couple years ago and think I have every right to express my thoughts on the city. I only get back to Springfield two or three times a year now but I still talk to friends constantly and the pulse of the city hasn't changed since I left.

When it does or I have lost touch, I will cease to post. Jlr, Crime is never an issue to anyone when it does not impact them directly. Only then does it become an issue.

Your dispatchers got a big raise before I left partially due to the fact that they work harder than a majority of cities in the state. Yes the crime is predominantly east but I never lived in bad neighborhoods while I was there and my car was keyed, broken into, my house was broken into and someone tried to get into my garage. If you have lived in Springfield any amount of time you will know that the Springfield Police Department has some problems.

This is something that would most definitely be a concern to me if I was moving there. Get a house out west and you probably won't have any problems at all. IMO that makes it more difficult. I understand people that like Springfield wanting to defend it and I do agree with many of the points brought up. The cost of living is low. There are Arts in Springfield. The Lincoln attractions are excellent. Why did you leave your job at Chili's? Do hostesses get tipped?

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