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FFM, exh, toys, beast Ape Girl - by Anonymous Author - Posted by "The Editor" - Blair is gorgeous and sexy but the preppies she meets at the formal dinner don't do it for her so she daydreams about her first time - under the tropical rainforest with a native boy when she was twelve - then her best friend comes by with a hairy hunk - just the way Blair likes 'em - and they have a threesome. But he had seemed to take to Kate immediately, usually hanging over her shoulder or something whenever she was in his cage.

It finally catches up to her though and her mother decides to send her to her sister's farm in the country. They have something special in mind for this hot young girl. Ff-teen, ped, reluc, inc, voy, mast, oral, beast A Ramming For Hubby - by Cest4u - This is a story about Ann, a lady who has a very strong sex drive. She is also into doggie sex and gets even with her hubby as she has the doggie fuck him while she has him tied to the bed. Then both of then start to enjoy him being pounded while the hubby is making love to her.

A little on the wild side. A Walk Through The Forest - by Drake - Suzy wanders around the countryside after escaping her parent's attention for a while only to find out that bestiality is very interesting.

MMF, bdsm, beast Aren't Webcams Wonderful - by Pegboy - Trevor sends Vernon a few e-mails describing what he's seen on a website with two webcam feeds. I originally posted this story to a live-journal community devoted to Olympic RPS mostly as a joke, but I've grown to like the story, and think other people here would, too. F, beast At The Cabin: Molly, Stacy and Max - by Sumddy - A mother and her young teen daughter arrive with their dog Max at the cabin they've inherited, where the mother spent a lot of time as a girl with her mother and grandfather.

The young mother, full with unrealized fantasies of her grandfather here in the forest from when she was a girl, discovers her daughter and Max, and watches, further fueling her own desires. Ff, underage, inc, 1st-lesbian-expr, mast, oral, beast Aunt Margaret's Stable - by Emily Rose - Three redheaded nymphomaniacs, three horses with a craving for human cunt. But it might not be what it looks like. He has heard tales from his shipmates about donkey sex shows in Mexico, but doesn't believe them.

The woman writes to confirm these shows do take place and adds her own experiences witnessing sex between a pony and a farmer's wife.

MF, beast, fisting, fantasy Part 2 - Part 3 Away From It All - by Bignobody - Stranded in the desert after his car breaks down, a man treks to the nearest sign of civilization only to find the surprise of his life. In fact it can be quite nice. Mf, drugs, oral, anal, beast, nc Babysitter Takes Dogs, The - by Ted Leonard - Pretty blue-eyed Cindy, the teenage babysitter decides to satisfy her sexual cravings with the neighborhood dogs, eventually introducing a girlfriend to the idea. Things were pretty normal until they went to the dogs!

That revelation changed their relationship and their sex life, which soon included friends and family. Men are only beginning to perceive the true nature of woman's being. They have created a false image of her. She's' neither an angel nor a bitch in heat.

If she is no longer an enigma, She's' certainly an everlasting source of wonder and rich in unexplored possibilities in every domain of life. I had to cope with a strict mother, an ignorant father, and an incestuous brother.

It became a lot easier to deal with it all when I found the key to happiness in our barn one day. It's called "Belly Riding" and has adherents who are wealthy and maybe a little eccentric. Belly riding is an art that only women can perform. It take a special harness that "slings" the willing female underneath a stallion. She controls the animal with her arms and feet, and an expert can gallop. It's about Berlin, two lesbians, a dog and kinky bondage. FFF, nc, bd, beast Bernard - by Robin - A semi-true story of a couple who find a third for their love play.

MF, beast, oral, mast Bestial - by Anon - An experience and reluctant awakening of hidden desires a young woman meets local farmer who readers her like a book, leading to dog sex. He encourages his wife and the weekend finds him watching his wife and her sister parade nude in public, and playing sex slaves for a group of black men. In return for his encouragement, Jessica gives him a new female club member to break in while watching the action. MF, beast, exh Betamax - by Jasper Goat - Father and son finally get together watching some old tapes.

A story of a young man's exploration of sex. I have changed all recognisable names and places and have switched some events around to make the story more readable, but all the events in this story actually took place. She likes it so well that she asks her hubby if she can get another one. MMF, dom, bi, exh, orgy, ws, beast, bd Beverly Hillbillies: Elly May, Jethro Mayn't - Uncle Mike - A parody of the s sitcom based upon the premise of a hillbilly family that strikes it rich in crude oil and move to Hollywood California to "tale there place in society.

She spies on her parents swapping and having orgies when they think she's a sleep. Things get even more interesting when at 16 the young woman gets married and takes up her parent's swinger life-style. There's even a south of the border donkey sex show in this story, just about everything except the kitchen sink. MF, Mf, bg, ped, beast, swing Biology Teacher - by Cumfreak - A story of a 5th grade student and her biology teacher talking about reproduction.

The 5th grader had questions her teacher couldn't answer, so the only way to answer them was to show her, using a dog's penis instead of a human penis as an example. Fg, ped, beast, 1st, voy Part 2 - Part 3 - Part 4 Birth Of An Empire - by Miles Martin - The darker side of a pathetic young man takes over, after his bitchy boss pushes him over the edge.

Once unleashed this predatory part of him starts taking what it wants, and nothing can stand in its way. Being a bitch for the neighbor's dog Rambo was great fun. His hand slowly moved down to his hard cock and wrapped around the shaft. He began to stroke himself, only one image, one girl, filled thoughts hours a day.

It was his sister. Her face danced before his eyes as his stroking increased. He saw himself fucking her, using her body. He felt that familiar churning in his groin and increased the rhythm I had a German Husky called Blacky. Well, one day I saw my dog mount a female mutt.

I was curious, and watched them until he was done with her. A couple of days later I was in my room with my dog, when he started licking his cock. It started me thinking about him and the bitch he had fucked and my cock got really hard She didn't care who or where just as long as she got some hot male sausage to stuff into her aching pussy.

FF-teens, youths, mast, beast Bonobo - by Yod Gimel Hen - Jane was tending to the Bonobo chimps in the zoo and had found them lovely and adorable, until one afternoon when she found them even more lovable than usual. Boarder In The Loft - by Phil Phantom - The Smedleys become a decadent lot in a very short time, but that is bound to happen when you combine need, greed, money, four pussies, three dicks, and a dog under one roof. The more they told me how bad he was the more I wanted to show him how much I loved him.

So when her German Shepherd starts sniffing at Carol and then becomes sexually aggressive with her, Janice lets what happens, happen, offering no help whatsoever. Just a fantasy that never happened. Ff, ped, 1st, oral, beast Brooke And The Hot Sauce - by Snow Ghost - A voyeur gets a kick out of peeping on families and their sex lives in a wooded neighborhood. The problem was that she didn't really have any work experience and that made it hard to find a job. She had saddled her black stallion 'Buck' and was now riding him west along a ridge top.

A story about Lisa and her horse, Buck. MMf, ped, asian, reluc, 1st, beast Bullied Victim - by Publicunt - A girl gets bullied by a gang at school and ends up being dog raped. They are kidnapped and tormented by an inner-city gang. Needless to say, we never made it to the bath tub. My ass was raw and welted by the time he came in a gush in my mouth. I lapped up every drop of his cum like a suckling babe. He then probed my cunt to explore my piercings.

I had been denied for so long it was hard to keep from cumming the instant he touched me but I knew better. And shortly Master was hard again and he penetrated me deeper and harder then I had ever been. There, they're raped by 3 guys on horseback and 2 dogs.

FFM, bi, tv, beast, dog-rp, v Candy: My mother may be asleep, wait out here while I check. Carl Fields grinned knowingly at Greg Sullivan, as the two of them sat down in the darkened hallway outside the Burnside's front door.

After years of rape and humiliation, she begins to enjoy it. So much so, she involves a would-be rescuer in her debasement. The younger brother is offered a cure for his older sister's really bad attitude. The cure makes her his slave. As she is ready to drive away a cold chill runs down her spine when she feels sharp steel pressed against her throat.

MF, beast, nc Carnal Knowledge - by Alexis Covington - Coming of age story between two girls and a running through school involving a dog. Dressed And Knotted - by Jimmy James - This is the story about getting dressed up, stumbling onto a dog and being knotted to him when the owners catch me!

Ffmm-teens, inc, beast, voy Celest And Epic's Exploration - by Ash - Epic brings her darling dog over to her friend's house and the two enjoy him to the fullest. FF, beast, oral, anal Center, The - by Iotonka - In the government issued a mandate that any child with Telepathy, ESP, or telekinesis to be cataloged and held prisoner at a special government facility. This facility is called the Center. They have placed a person in every library, school, and hospital to ensure these children are found, In Project Tele-search went online, a super computer that decrypts and scans all email and phone calls.

They are watching, No one is safe! Mf, beast-rp, v, ped, ws, bd Part 2 Chance Mating - by Mary Redrum - A widowed woman takes a weekend at the coast and befriends a large dog and has more then a friendly encounter with him. A father and daughter are the perfect victims. First the daughter is used and abused, then daddy's pulled in. Their problems are cause by their total inability to control their sexual urges. Sounds like some politicians we know, don't it? The camp counselors and camp mascot all get involved.

Then their boyfriends get involved too. MFmfbg, ped, family-inc, preg, beast Christmas On Barbados - by Liquidgold - Jennifer, an experienced young animal-lover is on holidays in Barbados over Christmas. On a lonely beach she has a lot of fun with her Dalmatian Spark. MF, reluc, 1st, mast, oral, inc, beast, rom Circle, The - by In2thissht - A young husband and wife looking for some fun online find more than the bargain for.

The Cherry Buster - by Anonymous - Four girls form an interesting little club where one of the initiation rites is to lose their cherry in a very special way. I finally had to take care of her urges with some friends and their animals. Although she was as bright as all her peers in the lab, she found it difficult to relate to them on a personal basis. Besides, they were all disgusting because of there continuing habit of looking at pornographic gifs and grasp animation.

The question nagged her and still was not resolved by the time the lab started to close. Providentially, an avenue opens to explore his interests further. Now he wants revenge on the cop who put him away, by making his daughter the star of his next film.

I've been accused of being a sex crazed bitch, a slut, near animal status and a sex addict. So I've decided to set the record straight and tell me story, at least part of it. She goes from one extreme to the other as she watches men and canines on the internet. Then she gets to try it for real. MMm, ped, bi, beast, inc, voy, mast Daddy's Horse - by K9shelly - This is the story of my first sexual encounter with my dad's horse.

I have posted a story about my first dog encounter, so I thought I would share this as well. She marries a prosperous, conservative vanilla man in Indiana. In the process she offends an ex boyfriend who gets his revenge by drugging her and supplying her as a sex object for multiple women, multiple black men, and multiple dogs.

Gargoyle - A strangely familiar sci-fi tale about a dissatisfied husband that finds the grass isn't necessarily green across the road. There are those who think my educational methods with recalcitrant youths too hard and extreme. Some even call them perverse. So I put it too you. A dare is taken and soon the hot young wife is satisfied beyond her wildest dreams. MFFb, ped, nc, rp, inc, beast, bi, bd, gb, voy Deal, The - by LWM - The family maid offers a deal to her boss to keep her out of jail after she is discovered having sex with his son.

Mf, Fm, ped, voy, inc, bd, ws, beast Dee's Story - by Rose Eastmann - Bored housewife using erotic videos to entertain her friends at 'shop-n-perv' parties. She's so successful that soon she needs more films than her regular provider can supply.

But is the price from an alternative supplier a little to steep? She finds that her regular lovers are not what she really needs.

But one faithful friend comes to the rescue. The sun is beating down on me, warming my breasts and stomach. My ass is cradled in the warm sand. Sweat runs down my thighs and into my crotch teasing me, making me think of sex, sex in the abstract.

It seems like forever since I have had a man, I've been on this island by myself for almost a year now. Mfb, ped, oral, fantasy, beast Dog Adventure - by Robin - A very short, but true account of our stay on the farm.

Master - A high school freshman is hit by lightning and discovers he can enter the mind of of the German Shepherd that belongs to the girl next door. She ran her household with an iron fist, and her husband's sex life with an iron snatch.

Little did she know that she would soon be treated like the bitch she was. That is until a discovery turns things around. A dare becomes an excuse to make good on a dream, only to have a phone call cut it short. MF, exh, beast Doggie Is Number One - by Shooterguy - A young girl loses her virginity to the family dog and then becomes hooked on canine sex. Ff, ped, 1st, beast Doggy Sitting Adventure - by Dan Glingcock - A couple doggy-sits a friend's dog for a few weeks and find out how pleasurable it can be.

Dogs - by SP Studios - Doggy and woman story - "There was a quiet clicking on the polished wood floor as her dog came over from his basket in the corner. He sat at her feet and rested his chin gently on her knee. She looked down into his large brown eyes and smiled, ruffling his headfur and scratching behind his ears. He seemed to smile up at her, seemed to understand her sadness. She secretly decides to take it a step further It is an act of desperation fueled by the frustration of sexual failure.

In the quiet of early morning not even self-manipulation can stimulate release. Like an addict hooked on drugs, she dreams of more. When we were kids, we had fooled around with a few of the neighborhood dogs, examining their sex organs, fingering bitches and jacking off the males. We once even arranged an illicit mating, just so we could watch. We eventually discovered girls and Jeff lost interest in animals, but somehow I never did.

I've kept fucking bitches even to this day. MFmf, ped, nc, inc, beast Dreams Can Come True - by Anon - This is pretty much a true story about how I went from a heterosexual male to a ball-less gay bottom. You want to know what I would do with a hot bitch if I had the chance.

Well if your hot pussy, or cock, can take it, I'll try to tell you. In directory 29 The niave Joan helps her husband and brother-in-law make special "educational" films with the kids. Mf, ped, inc, nc, bi, oral, beast Edward Was Changed Into Sallie - by Doingbothways - A look into what happens when you mix to many things together. When her pet runs away a woman returns the dog and joins the fun then invites her husband to join also. Afterwards everyone is invited to try for themselves how to handle the young boars and sows.

In the afternoon the family members earns their keep by socializing with the audience when the young farm dogs come loose. A story of a woman submissive to her own desires. Also this must have happened because of my dad bathing me over several years and our total relationship. When summer came, I went out to her farm to visit. We made love, but I had no idea what kind of sex she was really in to. MM-beast, reluc, v, oral, anal, fantasy Fairy Story - by Robin - Susan was a wild one, and her excesses lead her to an alternative realm and a lot of trouble.

Humour plays a part in this story. Come to think of it, so do a lot of other things. Warning, this is a very nasty story. MMFg, ped, inc, voy, 1st, beast, mast, oral, anal, hypno, mc Family Sandwitch - by Anon - A husband takes his whole family down a path none of them ever thought they would go.

MMFmf, ped, 1st, family-inc, beast, orgy Farm, The - by Mredfox - I turned sixteen, had a perpetually hot pussy, so my parents shipped me off to the farm. I was in trouble a lot back then and my folks thought something think this would settle me down.

Only what it really did was teach me how to surrender to my animal lust. That summer I ended up having sex with a boar and the family dog. The vet said they were sexually frustrated and needed to get laid. So I began to jerk them off twice a day and collect their cum.

This is a story about my first time with my dog and a friend's dog. In the course of my adventure I find something out about myself that's quite interesting.

F, beast Filmed With Dogs - by Bob Wallace - "I like anything that will give me pleasure," Felicia purred, "whether it's a man, a woman D - Loosing my virginity to my mare. Her dog starts to lick her cunt and he girl finds that she likes it. Alien life finally arrives but not in a form we ever expected. Fortunately for some, it leads to some very interesting changes in the female kind. What follows is her account of how she won her freedom.

Master - A runaway teen is picked up by two women and finds herself taking care of the dogs in their breeding kennel. Frustrated with his new life, he finds peace in a young girl and a canine companion. After a few drinks I get my girlfriend to join in too. What he doesn't tell her, is that he wants his Boxer dog to fuck her as well.

MM, exh, mast, oral, anal, voy, beast Fuck Ewe - by Corey Anton - Corey visits his aunt and Uncle's farm and by the end of the first day has fucked his first sheep, been fucked by a ram, his uncle and the family dog. It's going to be a long week as he learns about farm life. Mm, ped, inc, reluc, beast, ws Fucking The Family Dog - by Michael - A young man gets his rocks off in the family's female dobby. He is totally degraded and used.

After that, I decided to get in on the action too. MMF, beast, orgy Game: She likes the idea of saying no when she means really yes. One night when she goes to a party, her fantasy becomes reality thanks to a boy named Brad and a horny dog. Mmfg, ped, reluc, mast, anal, exh, beast, enema, ws Games - by Art S Healing - For fatherless Tommy and Stephanie, life is strange - although seldom boring. Their mother simply loves to play games with them, but her favorite kind of games don't exactly have rules- except for her own.

MMF, Fbg, Fg, ped, 1st, bi, family-inc, mast, oral, anal, mc, ws, beast Garage Girl - by Shasta - A woman tries sex with a big mutt and discovers she really likes it. Not for the fainthearted. At the foot of the dais she tripped on shreds of green cloth that were the remnants of her dress. Cursing, one of the uruks grabbed a handful of her silver tresses, dragged her up the steps, and dropped her painfully to the ground.

Caligula's odd political promotions are a matter for historical fact. And Roman horses were small, rarely over 13 hands high. MF, beast Good Doggie - by Jimbo2 - Horny girlfriend waiting for her boyfriend to come over gets distracted by her male dog.

From there they introduce her to the joys of bestiality and incest by threats of exposure. No one knows who or what is doing it. Some suspect wizards but wait till they find out what it really is. There is a name for these odd even. It's called a faery circle.

For thousands of years they have been believed to be mystical places where the world of reality and the fantastic overlap. MFF, exh, bi, bd, asian, beast, cream-pie Heinz 57 - by Ouirup4it - The story I am about to tell you happened along time ago, a couple of years after we got married. Despite having a brilliant relationship I have never been able to tell my husband about this event or indeed anyone else, which, is I why I suppose I have chosen this forum to spill the beans - to record at least that it happened and wasn't some bizarre dream.

He has been called many things from "a giant furry thing" to "a rabbit-like spirit". Basically, he is a spirit of the forest. Totoro is not a traditional Japanese character: However, he is obviously a mixture of several animals: And she helps him "get over" too. When a new family moves in next door they take pity on a young girl with a muscular disorder. They decide the only humane thing is to make her feel like a normal girl by turning her into a slut.

Mf, ped, voy, orgy, nc, bi, swing, beast Her Husband's Boss - by Anon - His long, purple-veined penis jutted out of the opening in his grey flannel trousers and began to rise stiffly up below his slight paunch as he stood at the back of his desk staring down at his mistress's white, cream-like contours, displayed nakedly before him.

Mf, nc, rp, v, beast, fantasy Holiday By The Sea - by Rachel Childs - A young girl stays at the seaside with her Father and becomes the victim of deviant sex. While I enjoyed them all, especially the dogs and cats, I never thought of them as more than friends. I suppose others developed more intimate relationships with their pets and I just wasn't aware of it. That all changed with Nancy. MF, F-dog, work Home Early - by Liquidgold - When Claire comes home from university too early and catches her parents "playing" with the family dog, it all leads to an incestuous orgy of the whole family, including a lot of animal sex, watersports and also gay sex between father and son.

MF, inc, bi, beast, ws Horny For Rams And Horses - by David Crane - He was a sturdy horse, but not overly large, and she was able to touch both booted heels against the animal's cock. Her well-muscled thighs gripped the horse around the flanks, tightening and relaxing as if she were lasting at a trot. She began to rub her heels up and down the animal's huge, swollen prick. MF, oral, anal, beast Horse Barn - by Kanga - A couple hides in the hay loft to catch a rancher who is rumored to have been cruel to his horses.

But what they end up seeing is something they would never have thought of. This story has some grammar problems, but it was submitted by a member who thought it was different from the run of the mill animal stories.

At first she is intrigued, but the memory becomes an obsession, then the obsession becomes a reality with the help of a black stable hand. Ever since she had sex with her dog Red, and me, she has been obsessed with animal sex.

To satisfy my little fire ball, I finally managed to locate a man who ran a small farm alone and convince him to rent me his barnyard for some "research" while he was out tending his fields. It's never far from my mind though.

Whenever I have sex, I think about it. This is the story how she discovered how nice it is to have sex with her husky Wolf.

F, beast Hubby Gets The K9 - by Doggie2 - This is a story about Abby, a middle aged lady and her husband as she enjoys their canine on a regular basis, but it comes with at twist towards the end, for him anyway. Abby had me write it for her. She will never question anything her husband orders her to do. Some rough play and four guys and their dogs get her to mellow out.

I felt a tingle of lust run through my body and my large nipples erected again as if touched by icy cold. FF, forced, bd, beast, cast Inga Comes To America - by Vulgus - A fan of my stories contacts me and we correspond about our mutual fantasies of male domination and humiliation and the many forms of abuse that turn her on.

She agrees to spend her two week vacation with me and be my total slave. Ff, ped, inc, 1st, mast, anal, beast NEW Initiation - by Foxi2 - A young schoolgirl wants to be socially accepted and finds out that it takes more than just good looks.

MF, inc, beast In The Garden - by Susan Watergate - Young girl learns about animal sex on her in-laws farm and is finally raped in their garden by the family dog. Would you kidnap a man's daughter and rape her in front of him?

MMf, ped, v, rp, nc, beast In The Park - by Bitch Monkey - A couple on holiday in Italy sneak into a photo booth in the park for a quick lustful encounter, only to be drugged, leaving the man paralysed and watching a video on the screen of his girlfriends perverted experiences. Phil - A strong young man escorts two beautiful sisters home. As they pass by the haunted woods in their horse drawn carriage, one of the sisters exclaims that they are so late that their daddy will be very angry.

The brave strong gentleman escort insists that they go through the haunted woods to save time. Against there better judgment the sisters agree and off they go -- never to be heard from again.

She becomes a victim of his two teenage sons and teenage daughter and is raped and tormented while the boss is out of town. This is not a story for the faint of heart. MMFg, ped, inc, voy, 1st, beast, mast, oral, anal, hypno, mc It's A Dog's Day - by Doglover32 - When her parents go out of town for the weekend, twelve-year-old Stacy finds out that her family's eight dogs are more than she can handle.

They find release for their sexual tension in each other and later the family pooch joins in too. I was especially curious about gay sex, since I couldn't get any answers about it. The only thing I'd heard was "That's sick and disgusting!

He lover is a primate, but a bit hairier than most. Before anyone tells me, I know a Gorilla's dick is only one and a half inches long. His name is Storm and he's a pitch-black stallion, and Janet is infatuated with his strong shinny body. MF, voy, beast Jealousy - by Friar Dave - A man has an obsession for a pretty Latina woman, that burns whit hot when he finds out that she was once a pre-teen porn star and then they opportunity to see some of her videos together.

MF, ped, exh, beast, latina Jennifer Lopez: I finally had some time to myself after several days of parties and reunions with friends and family. Today was going to be my special day alone. Dad hadn't returned yet from a business trip and mom was off doing last minute shopping. And the most amazing thing happened to me She told me how Julia discussed going to Africa to film a wildlife documentary. She said Julia was telling one incident where a large male animal grabbed her hard and sat her on her lap.

Julia was scared even though the story is that the animal did not mean her any harm. My friend suggested that she thought the beast wanted to fuck Julia Roberts. I got so turned on my the image of Julia Roberts in the middle of a Gorilla gang-rape that I just had to see if I could write a scene that does justice to my vision.

I felt for my face, warm, soft and tiny, a girl's face? Just a few hours ago I was a fifty year old pervert with a stomach ache, now I'm in some little girl's body, how the hell could this happen? MMg, ped, nc, tg, huml, intr, gb, bd, beast, tor Karen Loses Control - by XFactorLocke - Karen Lewis from Monkeying Around goes to the Principal at her daughter's school to make sure that her daughter can go to the school dance.

She ends up seeing the old principal's penis and has to have it. Her ride home from the school also brings us an adventure. MF, oral, beast Karen's Bitch Training - by Vulgus - An attractive but frigid young woman kicks her husband out of the house. She is soon a victim of the same young black man that is abusing her teenage daughter.

This is a very rough story, not for the feint of heart. Her father had divorced her mother and remarried. Karen hated his new wife and her new stepbrother. She rebelled at every turn, even turning to sexual practices that would compromise her if she were caught.

MF, beast, oral, prost, blindfold, bd Kate Get's Blitzed - by Pixie - Two girlfriends share a dark secret and an erotic experience. FF, reluc, beast Kathy's Dog Act - by Paul Gable - Kathy gets a gob acting, only to find that there's a lot more to the job than she thought.

FF, beast, ws Kelly - by PornGirl - Coming home for summer vacation from the catholic school nearby, I never expected to end up getting raped by the neighbor's dogs. Blackwell's house for a few weeks now. She's teased him a lot, wearing hot outfits that show off her body. But this time things go a little beyond teasing. They suffer from the anti-English backlash, but she is accepted only by complying with their terms. MF, reluc, beast K9 First Time - by Photomaker - Some guys will do anything to get sex - A paramedic is called to rescue a girl who was "stuck" to her dog.

He helps her in her embarrassing situation. Then he can't get the vision out of his mind. Finally he calls her for a date. Kim was taking advantage of the seclusion my cottage afforded by working on her all-over tan. The sight of her slender body reclining on the chaise made me all the more glad she had accepted my offer of a quiet weekend with no-strings-attached.

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But then they take her on to another ordeal that involves dogs and horses. Because they're bored One of them makes a wager that the loser has to be the slave of the winner for a week, doing everything she is told to do.

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The series name is "Little Rich Girls" A coming of age story. The sisters loved to be home alone. Maybe that would seem strange for most young teens who would rather be gallivanting around without their siblings. But Sue and Alice were different. They were comfortable with each other. They enjoyed each other.

Her first dating experience was boring. I sincerely hope that a reasonable perimeter around each landing site is designated as off-limits and left in-situ. At the very least, the Apollo 11 site. Obviously they created some kind of crater, that could be compared with older photos?

When you see the lander lift off from the moons surface, as seen from the moons surface, notice that the camera pans upwards. Phil, you know, being reactive gives the other side the power…pretty much the only contact I and I suspect most readers of your blog have with Apollo deniers is in your rebuttals to them. I would agree, that would be a site of far too much historical significance to disturb. I can see people in the future on the moon visiting it, but taking photos from a reasonable distance so to not disturb the site.

Of course even if we have a colony on the moon and someone visits the Apollo sites and photographs it, some people will still claim it is all a hoax: Do we care that some people still believe that the earth is flat?

Just ignore them and let them bury their heads in the sand. And of course Arthur C. What do you think? Religious delusions I can understand if not accept for myself for they offer easy answers or foster their feelings of superiority or whatever. But why is it important to these people that the landings be false? What feel-good center is stroked by this? What world view is confirmed in believing such nonsense? The world view that is being confirmed by this belief is a form of misplaced scepticism, Timid Atheist.

This kind of belief—that the government and its agencies are out to trick us into thinking that they are using our taxes for worthwhile things—allows a complete disengagement from politics and current affairs. US technology produced a moon rocket made by the lowest bidder. Chinese technology will produce a moon rocket the same quality as a remote control toy at WalMart! I think the same can probably be said of the space-type conspiracies, too. What puzzles me about this kind of thing is the most basic foundation of any conspiracy theory: No-one ever seems to ask why they would — we just assume that they would.

For me, this is the big mystery about conspiracy theories. I think I know a few guys who would have disputed that, for a few days.. Well, of course the lunatics would say that any Hubble images of the landers were faked. After all, those pretty pictures of stars are made with a copy of Photoshop and a really funky filter!

Imaging the lander using the LRO will not dissuade the tin-foil hat brigade, but I would hope the publicity surrounding the feat might change the minds of the casual doubters who mistakenly trusted that thing they saw on fox one time.

They are an elite crowd who possess knowledge that nobody else has. That puts them above the rest. They can pat themselves on the head for being special, all the while taking pity on the poor non-believers who fail to see the light. In that regard, it is very much on a par with religious elitism. They probably keep a stack of towels next to their computers. We trade and kow-tow to them enough to be most favoured trading partner or some such.

We even officially ignore their genocide in Tibet, Xinjing and against their own dissidents. See above too as far far their tracking capability goes. The Taliban are gone from power, the war goes on. Han Solo made it in under 12 parsecs?

A Parsec is an astronomical measuring unit — equivalent to 3 point something or other light years. Its most useful aspect is with respect to stars intrinsic brightness or Absolute Magnitude versus how bright they appear to be in our sky or their apparent magnitude. A star 10 parsecs away? Alpha Centauri the nearest star quite like the Sun but a double appears as a first mag star the third brightest star, actually it has a negative zero mag technically speaking from our skies as seen from its distanceof 4.

Do you get edited at all? No, I sometimes leave typos in on purpose so anal-retentive people feel like they have something useful to do with their lives.

Please read my comments policy. Only small masses, such as rifle bullets, can manage it. Spy satellites around the Earth are in polar orbits, even though the most interesting targets are at somewhat lower latitudes, because the inclination of your orbit determines the maximum latitude that you can observe.

So you really want it to be as high as possible. Put it lower and you are unneccesarily reducing the area available for study. The TV cameras used in the Apollo program were remotely commanded to tilt, pan, zoom, etc.

The technology existed at the time, certainly. I think the ones used were on the lunar rovers to image the ascent stage. Usually, the hoaxers use the claim that you see no exhaust coming from the ascent stage as it rises. Ignoring the fact that the fuel used is hypergolic and has a nearly invisible exhaust.

Looks like the resolution there is quite high. Maybe it is, but that seems large to me. In other words, based on what he saw in the photo. The remote camera operator states that the time lag was accounted for on the LAST lunar liftoff using a timed script based on earlier liftoff tracking failures.

Basically the commands were sent before liftoff. IIRC they even showed the other attempts at tracking. Kessel was a spice planet located near a cluster of black holes. In order to get there, you had to skirt around them, going the long way, to keep from getting pulled in by the enormous gravity. The faster your ship, the closer you could skirt around the black holes, therefore going the shortest safe distance.

Secondly, the cameras were remotely controlled from Earth. As JohnG said, the camera could be controlled to pan, zoom and tilt, so all that was needed to track the ascent of the LM was the right mix of those elements at the right time. So how did they do it so well?

He also controlled the camera during the missions, when its job was to watch what the astronauts were doing. This seems to be the middle ground that fits all the data. Dear Phil, I think there is better way solve the moon hoax problem once for and all. Once they come back they can spread out the message that they were wrong and they were really on the moon. Thanks for the Hubble Moon-pix link.

Hare Krishna moon hoax proof. The Vedas state that the moon is , miles farther from the earth than the sun. I blame that error on Jya Ja Binks.

Looking at reality causes physical pain for them. Did the Apollo astronauts take any photos in false colour — using Infra-Red cmaeras or anything like that — on the Moon? Jya-Ja Binks Killer asked: The crew of Apollo 16 took an ultra-violet telescope to the Moon with them. With it they took photos of the Earth and stars. The photos can be used as evidence that the telescope, and, by extension, the astronauts, were on the Moon: In other words, NASA had no way of safely faking the photos. Is it possible for Nasa or someone else in the near future to send a exploring craft similar to what they sent to Mars, to orbit the moon and simply send back some live pictures of the moon and moon mission artifacts that should still be visible to see.

What a wonderful teaching tool that would be for K and college students interested in our solar system. Seems like with the advances in galactic craft, cameras, and video technology that we could learn more about the the surface of the moon that we have ever imagined before.

Which is it, boys and girls? Maybe a little of both. Read a little more history and put yourselves in the proper groups at those periods. Now who thinks the worlds flat? Maybe a few leeches will cure Herpes, huh? Makes me feel so much smarter. I for one, what to hear what the retarded kid has to say. Then maybe we can get something done. With that candle on the moon bit you were talking about?

And they are not talking about shadows and lighting this time, but something more astonishing. There are other suggestions which attempt to hammer home the assertion that NASA really did land humans on the moon, but they had to make fake footage to cover up the alien structures.

If they did actually made it there, they could have taken real footage selectively. Also, why would the aliens stop and stay on the moon, as if they were trying not to be discovered? The unmanned probes which actually made it there would have observed them, and they would be out of business. Hubble, last year took a series of photos of the mars lander. The resoloution in these picture were so good that you could see the tracks from the mars lander which is only 3 meters wide. The apollo lander is about 25ft wide and on the moon has no atmoshere.

I advised you to also take a look at google moon, which shows pictures taken of the moon. To me all footage and pictures could have been faked and it seems that at least for part it quite probably. That does not proof that the man was not in the moon directly.

The more solid proof based on the reflecting mirrors also can be challenged as such since the soviets were able to install such mirrors as part of unmanned missions.

Thus to say that those mirrors are a definitive proof of the manned landing would be the same as saying that the rusians also landed. I hope most in both sides of the moon real-hoax would disagree with that, right?

In conclusion, is a matter of believing in it or not. Or the Gov satellites that can zoom in on my house and car? Maybe they missed that memo….

Go look up the relative distances, for a start! We could send one, for a price, and one day we probably will, as part of a larger overall research plan. It would have been harder technically and socially to keep the hoax going for these last three decades than it would have been to land on the moon for real. The technology to get to the moon is actually not that complicated.

As for the mirror experiment, the Russian version failed rather quickly because they used a robotic lander, and it was unable to place the mirrors with the appropriate level of precision. The US experiment is still going strong because human beings were there to make sure the mirrors were properly placed, taking into account all the unexpected vagaries of the terrain, as they encountered it.

I saw the lunar lander as I past the moon on my way to your planet. Funny thing though, there was a sign with a Lion that said MGM. Men indeed went to the moon, but they couldnt get back. So they opened a taco stand. Gave me gas though. Now what we we talking about? I reject your reality and substitute my own. Although you can say that the Russian mirror performance is poorer than the US ones in some respects, as described above, is more due to the mirror technology use than placing accuracy itself.

All those mirrors are designed so that the return the light to the source regardless of incidence angle within some limits of course thus they do not need to be placed very carefully by hand to do their job. In fact the russian mirror were never placed themselves, they are mounted on the mobile exploring modules ie. Russian tried to place two but only one works because the other was lost.

A moon landing defendant could say that it would be an indication supporting the requirement of placing mirror by hand to assure success. Nevertheless of 6 manned Apollo mission that would have landed on the moon only 3 seem to have placed currently working mirrors based on the website above.

Could anyone find another reference to see whether that count is complete? Please include link to source if so… Let assume it is complete for now … Why would not try to place relatively un-expensive mirrors in all missions specially if you did it from the first one.

A hoax proponent could argue that Apollo may have had a similar error rate than the Russian using a parallel unmanned approach. If ever a politicians had got away with a lie… you would never know about it, would you? That price would always be a very effective and convenient shielding against conspiration theorist, of course, only if the moon landings were a hoax. Never mind the mathematical jargon, what did the astronauts wear that protected them so perfectly from killer radiation?

Dig a little deeper and open your mind. Before you see how, you have to see why then all things become clear. I believe that Phil is underestimating the importance of the LRO getting close ups of the lunar landers, etc. He thinks that the moon hoaxers will still be blocking their ears and not hearing; maybe so for some of their hard-core leaders.

If nothing else, I doubt Buzz Aldrin would have punched that guy if the guy was totally off base. Because if the moon hoaxers were correct, Buzz would have had a guilty conscience and never punched him. Besides, what fighter plane jock would ever LIE about a feat like this? Their is an absolute ethic among fighter pilots that they never lie about their accomplishments. While I find no flaw in your math for size of object that can be identified, I believe you failed to consider the biggest thing that astronauts left behind that should be visible.

I can see rover tracks on mar but no buggies on the moon. That, in of itself, is proof that something smells fishy about this moon landing. I do know a little about photography and lens crafting though. It is possible that the Hubble lenses cannot photograph something as close as the moon but can do very well with Mars different focal points.

The moon landing hoax people are using their knowledge of what light and reflection and shadow are like on earth. Perhaps on the moon these variables are different.

The problem was the demonstration proved just the opposite.. The moon race took what 8 years JFK speech to the landing with technology which is very primitive compared to todays standards. It only took from to to design, build, and land on the moon with the apollos series. Not long with primitive technology. Then answer me why with all of superior technology we have now, why is it going to take until to reach the moon again?

As for Buzz Aldrin, punching the guy? Well the guilty pig squeals first…. Guilty people tend to react more aggressively then innocent people. Why would Astronauts lie? Especially ones that are ex-Naval Pilots?

The answer is national security. Russia launched a missile first into space Russia put an animal in space first. Russia orbited the Sun first. Russia performs first hard land on the moon first. For some reasons the Russians decided not to go to the moon. Any super power that could establish a base on the moon would have the ultimate air space superiority.

Tom, do you think the photos of the rover tracks on Mars were taken by HST? They were taken by the Orbiter. Funne how these foreign objects have choosen not to hit the walking tracks. And why does these pictures come today and not 35 years ago? It is a digital camera run on solar power that sends directly to the earth…is it too hard for NASA to use paintshop on som many pictures? And finally, how the hell can the most important tape NASA have be erased? It is like Mona Lisa dissapearing in a cleaning process…it is something that just does not happen — except if you want it to.

Well i arrived here a little late i was looking at google earth — moon and was thinking it was a little suspicous that i cant actually see any of the luna landing equipment from any of the luna landings except on 3dmodels and thought id have a scout around to find out why which brought me to this site… im not some genius nor am i some crazy conspiracy theorist type but i do believe that theirs sufficent evidence along with some very suspicous circumstances for anyone to be swayed either way with this thing, i personally dont believe the luna landings took place 40 years ago because of two simple little things no crazy alien theories or nonsense about a waving flag: All the boffin science aside those two simple facts put doubt into my mind, i dont think that makes me crazy or unrealistic as you people would make out.

Humm…any way, my dad knows best. Other countrys followed the moonlanding. Only thru radio transmitions right? So lets just say i send a bouncer to the moon? A unmanned ship that i use as an relay… Everyone would think id be at the moon nice… The laser they put on the moon… could have been placed with a robot, or could just be the lander itself. Another question i have: Is there any picture of an astronaut with earth behind them? Taken from the moon… Or werent they able to see the Earth either?

About the long shadows theory. There are extra filters to equip before observing the moon or a much heavier one for the sun , otherwise the intense radiation it would damage your eyes even for the moon. John, the earth was just not in possition very low at the horizont.

Think about it, how many Photos you got with you AND the moon on the same photo? It was faked, pretty obvious. And when the US actually goes to the moon legitimately, they will plant all the evidence needed to make sure everyone believes the Apollo missions actually occurred. Any person that looks at the evidence and makes an intelligent conclusion would say this has been faked. If you did it once with technology you could do it again and again with technology that is more than times more advanced.

S astronauts said had a FAR more advanced space program said it cannot be done. If it could be done the Russians would have done it first. This was all a PR campaign by the government to show the world that we were better than everyone else. We never went plain and simple. Im no brainiac but even i understand the basic political reasons why the usa had to lie to the world.

AT that time in human history the usa had to make a political statment showing they were more advanced than the ussr it was a im better than u statment. Its pathetic that the usa govenment think they fooled anybody in todays world. The fact is your avrage person today is a lot smarter than the avrage person of and requrie proof before beliving. Its impossible the spacerace was a huge hoaks. There could not possibly be any difficulty locating them with an orbiting explorer.

Given the the intensity of the light striking the moon iI doubt that anyone standing on the lunar surface could look at foil on the lander wearing anything less than welders goggles. Go out on any clear day, and look at the moon, if it happens to be visible, bear in mind that you are looking through the Earths atmosphere. That is one very bright place. I fully understand that the artefacts are ten times smaller than the resolution capacity of the Hubble telescope.

The point I am hoping to make is that a reflected flash from any metallic or even polished surface should, given the abscence of an atmosphere, be visible from a vast distance. An orbiting explorer viz, the European space Agency or the recent Japanese effort should, I suggest be easily able to record such a flash or even glimmer.

There would be much kudos for any nation in being the first to locate and record artefacts left on the moon, after all these years. I am prepared to suspend disbelief, insofar as film not being able to record the stunning carpet of stars in the lunar sky, just look away from the sun. There is no light diffusing atmosphere there. I simply cannot believe that the astronauts did not wax lyrical about that display whilst either on the lunar surface on their return to earth. Surely there would have been comments that the photographs fell far short of adequately detailing that astonishing enviroment.

Much has been made of Buzz hooking the fellow that demanded he swear on a bible that he Buzz had been to the moon. Buzz may have had a bad day. But if all the peskiness of the doubters was getting him down, why didnt he seize the oppurtunity to make a well publicised and definite oath that in fact the lunar landings truly happened..

Perhaps even the next day or the next week when he had cooled down. That would have been very reassuring to a great many people. Millions and millions of people have been prepared to accept as fact the official story line of the authorities over the millenia, without questioning, to their disadvantage and often horrendous cost. We, in the wealthy nations, live in relatively safe times, and can express our doubts and challenge the imformation we are given, and are greatly fortunate to be able do so.

There is absolutley nothing unreasonable about questioning the veracity of the official account of the lunar landings, on the evidence given thus far. Apollo mission itself was a huge financial enterprize, much bigger than the scientific one, the sort of US is not, and most likely will never again be able to accomplish.

Only China is and will be. If you are at all interested in how it is possible for a motivated authority with reliable cooperation from the media to completely or almost hoodwink the majority of a population, then I strongly suggest a good starting point. This in no way implies that Dr Burk , believes or disbelieves in the moon landings or even cares, but his intelligent and well informed essay will help to understand how we can be deceived into believing things that are simply, patently untrue.

There really is no realistic possibility that humans have landed on the moon, or even strayed further than a few hundred kilometres from the Earths surface, and survived, and it is highly unlikely that it will happen in at least the next couple of decades. I made reference to Buzz , earlier, and it has occured to me that the reason that neither he nor Neil Armstrong is prepared to swear on the bible that they have been to the moon, is in fact that as true patriots they are not prepared to swear a false oath to the American people.

They were required by the Government to make a sacrifice for what they perceived to be for the good of the country and have honoured their promise to their masters. All of the astronauts remain my heroes, fine and highly courageous men, even if used badly by the corrupt authorities.

They are great humans, and probably never expected the ruse to last more than a few days, the perpeterators of the fraud on exposure being bought to account within a short period of time. As it turns out they, the astronauts ,they have hopelessly overestimated our intelligence. There is no shame in having been deceived for a couple of decades, but for crying out loud, this is the time of the imformation super highway………wakey wakey.

Oderly thoughts lead to orderly expression of those thoughts. Post , please refer to post Your post reminds me of the Soviet methodology in committing dissidents to lunatic asylums………….. Or so we were led to believe. The sloppy manner that you refer to, might in fact indicate more interest in nub of the argument ,and possibly more realistic conclusions as a result, than the form of presentation. The Smithsonian has something for you. Radwaste, gosh what an articulate and compelling argument.

You have convinced me of the error of my ways! What an idiot I have been. More pearls of wisdom ,wise one, please. I was so busy at the time, finishing the thesis for my Masters…. The Smithsonian has something for me. Will they post it? What a bunch of crazies!!!!!!!

Thousands of photographs, footage, recordings and lots more. The entire world laughing? I do not intend to offend or insult who has some kind of creed. I see no reason to put limits on what hypothetical aliens can do.

Should we send a telescope further out into space , turn it and then point it towards the moon to see it better? Is Mars far enough from the moon? Should the next mission include a high power telescope to view better pictures of the moon?

Can we get one of those so call robot thingy-ma-gigs to do that now…meaning …point to the moon and send pictures back? Somebody gotta have some photos stashed somewhere. Because the true account of what happened on the moon involves the secret masonic funders of nasa who decided what and how much we knew. The actual moon landing involved neal armstrong proclaiming that the eagle had landed as he planted the flag of the Masonic high temple.

They went to the Moon with a dollar store calcular running their electronics — they went before the computer chip was invented? They strapped a magic unfolding car to the ski rack and and invisible tv station?

With rotary phone technology. Must be the money. NASA is always so fiscally responsible. Just saw that in a BBC documentary on the lunar rover to which that camera was attached. They only got the shot with the camera panning up to follow the ascent stage on the last mission—and there was no tracking technology at all.

The camera mount was simply signaled from the ground to pan up. We can all agree the US is declining as a super power. We no longer can dictate what other 1st worl d countries decide to do. Why is it that NO other country has ever landed on the moon?? Was our technology so advance in that todays leading technical countries dont have the ability that we had 4 decades ago, to go themselves? In other owrds whats stopping the rest of the world from going to the moon??

Why has no one returned? They are the ones who cut classes in high school to hang out at the convenience store and smoke weed; then when they hit 30 realized they needed education, so they got an online diploma in Basket-Weaving from some diploma mill.

Total minutes on the Moon amounted to minutes. Total number of photographs taken was photos. That amounts to 1. Still, you have the right to put down others for believing in something that quite frankly has numerous holes. As an atheist I can say most of you are delusional in your beliefs as well, but you will fight to support your beliefs and faith. Truth is somewhat intrinsic in nature when it comes to such topics.

Regardless of science or the size of your brain, there are way to many suspicious doubts concerning many of the missions. To many for coincidence. So we landed on the moon. Given that, then we have failed as a country for 42 years to further our exploration. If we landed on the moon, we are a pathetic race based on our further accomplishments in space. The McDonald Obseratoty routinky bounces a laser on the moon placed by Apollo astronauts.

It seems the hoaxers forgot about that! But I guess an alien placed it their in the exact position. By the way the purpose of this is to measure changes in the Earth-Zmoon since the moon is slowly pulling away. Just send the Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter out there and the Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter will be able to take digital photographs and thereby give us hard evidence that the Apollo landing craft still exists.

If we have satellites that can read your license plate number it does not make sense that we cannot see these artifacts. Unless they do not exist. Send a telescope into space that cant see the places Man has been. Here are some images from NASA: Those craft are a joke. How do you lose something like that? The problem with Hubble shooting a photo of the moon landing site is not a problem of resolution, but more of the problem of those who choose to think they are oh so much smarter.

They are so smart that they think without their hand int he moon landing project, it had to be impossible and must be fake. So, even if Hubble could take a photo of the moon lander, they will just say that the photo is doctored, the image of the lander itself is pasted onto the picture of moon surface. Not to mention it would be great communist propaganda to feed their own citizen, instead of the insufficient food and substandard products.

I believe both side know that if they faked any major milestone, the other will easily expose them, thus they tend to do it for real. Cuz citizen of US of A choose that, and that their own need, and improving their own lives are much more important than a pissing contest against soviet union.

Of course you can still leave orbit, as long as you have enough money to throw at the technology and fuel, but do you really want to do that, and do you really have that much disposable income for that? Why do engineers for rocketdyne built the Saturn-5 say every test ever done on the lunar modules was a complete failure, almost killing Neil Armstrong in one test. They say it is a joke to think any of the equipment tested for landing on the moon would ever work?

Ever wonder why marines only put their top pilots into harrier jets? Same reason, they will DIE if they are not the top pilot, and even top pilots sometimes get killed by the complicated hover system. I once had a middle-aged Russian man over doing a cleaning service in my house. He was very articulate, and still seemed quite a Russian patriot.

Somehow, I casually mentioned the Moon Landings to him. He then cited evidence about something to do with the speed of TV signal transmissions. But his confidence in the whole matter was unnerving. I wonder if the old USSR schools propagated this to him? And with how close it is, they still have to zoom in on it pretty close for clarity, showing just how small it actually is and how impossible it would be to see any other way.

It seems strange that we are able to produce optics in satelites that are able to read the newspaper somone is reading on the ground , but not spot a lander on the moon.

Also, spy satellite also often fly at extremely close distance to get better resolution of the target, how far is the moon away from earth again?

Well then, I guess we just need to go back to the moon and look. I have looked at this and to be honist there are no landings. There is a satalight going about the moon every few days. It is mapping out the landscape. The backside as I understand it it top secret. This is more to do with a anomaly that can not be sent out with out some review. I wont say a lot hear but we are not alone. The main reason we couldent go to the moon has to do with how high the radiation is in the belts over miles.

No human can take that much radiation with out protection like a led body sute. This would make the person blind from the led over head. Basicly go in a led box.. There is no way to know with out testing how much rads there are on the moon.

Because there is no protection on the moon the backside is the best bet to lower the radiation. The kicker for me is the speed of the orbater was going at mock 4 so how in the blue blazzes did the lander go from 0 to mock 4. It dont add up. Even if they used the moon to speed them up it would take at least a day to do that. You know they skipped that part of the craft hooking back up.

The best part obout space it lets you keep going and going and going. Like I said, those people more than likely believe that they are so smart that lunar landing could not have happened without them being the chief designer, builder, and lead astronaut that made the first step on the moon.

Like I stated before, large radars are all over the world, and it would not be too hard for any of them to send the tracking information to a local math wiz to calculate where is that darn rocket going to go. Thanks for the laugh. No amount of proof will convince these people, other than perhaps sending themselves to the moon to prove it can be done. Can this thing not get a better picture of the moon?

Just saw this today. We were in a race against time with former Soviet Union. Soviet scientists were also in the race and came to a conclusion that it was going to be a very expensive and dangerous manned mission to the moon, so they canceled the program altogether.

Keep in mind that the Russians were much further ahead in terms of space exploration, having put the first satellite Sputnik in space, having put the first man Yuri Gagarin in space, having put the first unmanned moon probe around the moon. But Americans, being more clever than the intelligent Russians, decided to find an alternate method of sending a man to the moon. What was left behind on the moon was remnants of an unmanned mission.

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