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I had packed six business suits, six crisp white cotton shirts, six stylish ties, three pairs of shoes, one pair of casual shoes with a pair of training shoes. My bag included socks and underwear, with a large toiletry bag in the mix I was virtually covered.
I went in to my kitchen and picked out two bottles of Beluga Vodka which I knew Suzi had a penchant for. I also knew James was very fond of Bacardi so I packed a bottle of that into the case. A few T-shirts and some Jeans and then it was time to zip my case. On the Saturday morning I loaded the case into the car along with my briefcase and some items required for the Conference, then I headed North to James and Suzi. After 5 Hours of uneventful driving, I pulled up to the barrier of Suzi's private parking.
Keying in the code she gave me, the barrier lifted and I parked in one of the slots allocated to Suzi's apartment. Switching the engine off, I climbed out of my car, opened the boot and took my large case from the car. Placing it on it's wheels I guided the case to the lobby entrance. Keying in the code Suzi provided, I stepped inside the spacious lobby. I took the opulent lift to the top floor, checking my hair and teeth in the mirrored wall of the well lit elevator.
As the doors opened I was surprised to see Suzi standing in the hallway. Her large breasts thrust in to my chest and I could distinctly feel her pierced nipples poking against my pecs. I followed obediently, drinking in the vision before me.
Suzi was wearing very high spike heeled shoes, which enhanced her slender long legs. Her legs appeared to be covered in seamed black stockings, with a very tight black pencil skirt covering them. Her ass looked even more wonderful than the last time I saw her. It swayed from side to side as she walked the short distance to her door. On top she was wearing a simple black turtle neck sweater in a very thin shiny material, and to put the cherry on the cake she was wearing a very tight black high waisted belt, which cinched her narrow waist even more so.
Guiding me and my case through her front door, she hugged me once more, her face nuzzling into my neck. She smelled absolutely divine, her heady perfume tantalising my nostrils, as her hot breath whispered in my ear.
I left my bag at her lounge door and took a seat on her large sofa. Suzi returned from the kitchen with our drinks and sat on the sofa right next me. Handing me my drink she placed her well manicured hand on my thigh and squeezed. I smiled and took a sip from my drink, half turning my body to face her.
You should come round one night or maybe I should give you a preview now! But if it makes you feel more comfortable I could do it for you in your bedroom. Come on bring your suitcase and I'll bring the drinks! I grabbed my case and dragged it on its wheels behind me. Suzi was about three paces in front, her fabulous ass swaying with her stupendous hips. I could clearly make out the garter straps beneath her tight skirt as she swayed her hips. The movement was beyond erotic and Suzi had definitely had breast enhancement, as I could clearly see her side boobs from the rear, her breasts were so pendulous yet firm.
She opened my bedroom door and stood in the frame. I had to brush against her breathtaking body to enter the room. Her magnificent breasts brushed against my body and I clearly felt the hard metal rings of her nipple piercings. She looked up at me, smiling as our bodies grazed each other's.
A spark of sexual electricity passed between us and we both knew where this was heading, but first the dance of seduction must be danced. I placed my case over by the large built in mirrored wardrobe. The bed was rather opulent for a guest room with a fine array of cushions. There was a large flat screen TV on the wall opposite the bed, two bedside tables And a large dresser come chest of drawers.
I sat on the bed as Suzi joined me on the very comfortable memory foam mattress. She smiled at me again and teasingly questioned. You've not seen my new boobs or pierced nipples, but the rest should be as you remember it! I fuck other men and he's fine with that. To prove it to you, I'll sleep in here with you tonight and you can fuck me all night just like we used too! You always were a noisy fucker and if memory serves you used to like me talking dirty! I cannot describe how hard my cock was with her forthright conversation, but Suzi always was different from other girls.
I saw the way you looked at me and I know you follow my alter ego on twitter so you know what I've been up to! Maybe you could be the next chapter? I'll just pop some music on and do my striptease for you! Turning her back toward me she smiled. The pounding rhythmic tone blasted from the music box, as I recognised Rick James Superfreak fill the room. Suzi smiled and strutted to the centre of the room. Suzi turned her back to me as part of her dance. The seams of her black nylon stockings drew my attention.
Her spike heeled shoes in alignment with the seamed stockings was almost trance like. Her skirt was a black tight pencil skirt, so tight that you could see the bumps of her garter straps beneath the surface.
I have to admit this looked extremely sexy and very slutty. The shiny black turtle neck top gave hint to a very sexy bra beneath as Suzi swayed to the music.
The black shiny top was kept tightly in place by a very wide waist cinching belt. The belt was in a soft PVC pliable material with four belt buckles pulled in tightly giving Suzi a Jessica Rabbit figure. Suzi turned toward me, swaying her hips, with a broad grin plastered on her cherub face. Her breasts were visibly larger than they were during our time together. They were a thing of artistic beauty back then, but what was before my eyes was on another level altogether.
Her breasts were stretching the shiny black material of her top to almost breaking point. The breasts were almost perfect round orbs, nestling in what appeared to be a quarter cup bra.
Her erect pierced nipples were almost cutting through the shiny tight material of her top. She was without doubt a vision of sexual heaven. She began to unbuckle the waist cinching belt, discarding the PVC belt behind her, like a burlesque performer. She placed her hands on my knees and leant forward. I ran my hands up her waist as she turned elegantly. Pushing her perfectly formed buttocks toward me, she began to gyrate her hips exhuberantly, making the zip and skirt removal just that little bit more difficult.
Placing my hands on her hips, I held tightly restricting her movements. She peeled the skirt over her magnificent buttocks, the smooth tanned flesh coming in to view. She had foregone panties as her naked ass was revealed as the skirt fell to the floor. Kicking the skirt over by her belt, she semi rotated her ass. The view was sensational.
Her butt was firmer and rounder since we last met. The heady scent of her perfume along with her sensational lingerie draped body was mind spinning to say the least.
She placed her taloned hands at the base of her top and slowly slid the top over her waist, the top slipping teasingly over her fabulous breasts, the piercings coming in to view as he pulled the top over her head. Her arms went high to ease the top removal, which lifted her breasts. They were nothing less than magnificent. Staring at my former lover, my cock was undoubtedly the hardest it had ever been. Suzi placed her hands on her cinched in waist, her hands resting on the shiny black underbust corset.
Her legs were slightly parted revealing her shaved slit, perfectly framed by her black seamed stockings and the black six strap corset. Smiling at me, she moved her hands to cup her breasts, tweaking her erect pierced nipples Suzi looked me directly in the eye.
I nodded my head vigorously like a scolded schoolboy. There could be a lot of levels of terrible going on here. I think you may be on to something. I hate to agree with this possible scenario…. If u keep defending that u were kicked out for ultimately dressing within their code given, 1 of them will finally bust out with a piece of truth IF the racial aspect was truly a cause of your dismissal….
I just want to say that I thought of that, too — especially a blonde young lady making a presence in a room with a very mature looking not inappropriately — I assume he is around also black man, if at least subconsciously that was the issue the mouth-breathing, middle aged dads were having. I will point out that she said HE bought the tickets and brought HER to prom, which would say to me he is also homeschooled and part of their association.
Our girls mostly had Vanna White-looking sequined dresses in hot pink and lime green that were backless, low cut and everything else. They made the girls with more classy and original dresses look all the better.
The people behind me were upset with interracial couples — black boys and white girls, moreso than they were white boys and Latina girls. For one, I wished they would shut up and almost said something, but my daughter might never have forgiven me for making a scene. Who are the boys supposed to date, even if we object to interracial relationships, which is, of course, wrong? Adults should at the very least have to speak to young people with integrity and name their claim. Otherwise, how can we expect it of them.
Yeah, that dress, while cute, is actually pretty modest. Singling it out makes no sense at all. So I have to wonder about a racial motivation in addition to the creepy misogyny. I have the same feeling, this is a lovely young woman, but nothing about her makes me want to stop and ogle.
Nothing is busting out or overly accentuated, she looks nice. There really seams to be something else at play here. I went to my senior prom with a guy who was my best friend at the time. We got some funny looks at the very nice restaurant where we had dinner before the dance, but that was as far as it went. You looked beautiful for your prom, your date was dashing, and there is nothing of which either of you should feel ashamed.
I doubt I could have done half so well at Good luck with getting the further refunds! As a girl with a long body, big bum, and short arms I am weirdly proportioned. I am ok with this. Would the prom organisers be ok with that? Similarly, girls with longer legs may well be wearing a dress which passes this rule, but by nature of having more leg to show than a shorter girl, are classed as showing too much. Because seriously, that dress is awesome, your sister looked fabulous, and I hope she gets the chance to wear it again soon!
I have a long torso, too, and got away with some pretty short skirts and dresses in high school because of the fingertip rule I always wore anything that short with opaque tights, at least. It does seem pretty subjective. I have long legs and short torso. They need to just say the dresses need to be x inches from the knee. My name Nicholas Tabachuk. Jessye Rae Tabachuk husband. They believe that there is nothing that can be done legally because it is a home school event.
Which undoubtedly offended the wives and women that were chaperones as well. The fact you were singled out prior to any foul language or foul acts proves there was a vendetta formed from the very beginning. Aside from just the reimbursement for your groups tickets, there are several things that bed to be imbued as well. These things include the cost of the clothing for the evening, transportation, and any other funds incurred by your group.
I, taking psychology three years in college learned megalomania is a huge part of home schooling their children and sheltering them from the real world. It is not fair your name will be flung through the mud as if you brought methamphetamine and started an orgy.
And the fact that you did not sign a document about their dress code, in which you did follow, leaves the door open for something huge. Now I can not get into those finer details on a public forum but if you contact my wife, I can go over these huge options with you. Some include action against the male chaperones. Some include action against this miss dee. If others are willing to testify to the actions of other attendees and the non discipline from the male chaperones, than it grows even larger.
How can anyone be proud to be a member of one of the most violent and morally depraved criminal organisations in the word. Catholics donates more to charity than any other organization in the history of the world. Also, they operate 1 out of 4 hospitals in the world. Think before you post. Yes, and for sure, that means ALL Catholics are violent and morally depraved. Hmm, here people are debating the potential reasons for discrimination against this young girl, and you all are going to to paint all Catholics with the broad brush of violence and depravity?
Sorry, Robert Lentink and Walrus — neither of you have any credibility. He said they belong to a depraved organization. Its not just Catholics. Every organizations has bad people involved. They have the real group that wants peace AND the extremest. Americans automatically claim the group is a terrorist group because of one sector. The church covered it up and gave the offenders more children to molest, you are as bad as they are for minimizing their crimes.
The Catholic church is a criminal organization. You cannot blame a whole organization for certain individuals actions. Thats like giving a detention to the whole class because two students acted up. The Catholic Church including up to the ex-Pope in his function as the head of the Inquisition systematically covered up the abuse. Instead of dealing with it and preventing future abuse, they shielded the abusers and moved them around.
Or moved them to the Vatican to prevent their arrest. Or moved around money to prevent payouts to the victims. To this day they obstruct justice at every turn. Yes, other organizations have sexual abuse too.
A few even cover it up. But the law eventually holds them accountable. Not so with the Catholic Church. Because organized religion is above the law. Never mind the countless other crimes against humanity the Catholic Church has committed throughout its existence. The first formal statement on sexual abuse of children by clerics was in 60 CE. He said absolutely nothing about individual Catholics, he simply expressed an inability to understand how someone could be proud to be a part of an organisation that has a DENSE history of unsolicited religious wars, covering up the sexual assaults of children, propagating outright misogyny and bigotry, money laundering, YOU NAME IT.
Okay sweets, your reading skills need help then too because i already replied to your other post before you copied and pasted it. No hun I replied to another comment above by Woofgang , in which they clearly needed help understanding what Robert actually said, and my comment to you the one directly above your comment was a reply to your comment in which you also clearly need help understanding the words that were said in the original comment. The comment your originally replied to was not meant for you, it was meant for Woofgang.
The original poster did not say members of the Catholic church were morally depraved, etc. He was talking about the Vatican, the Catholic organisation. Just because the government is greedy and morally depraved does not make every single person in the United States greedy and morally depraved. I can say that almost every single Pope that has ever taken seat in the Vatican has been a tyrant against progress and justice and morality.
How can you support an organisation that refuses to let women have any leadership and then comment on a post like this that is talking about the effects of patriarchal systems such as the gendered hierarchy within the Catholic church? THAT is what the original poster is saying.
All that charity comes with strings attached. Such as refusing to let babies be adopted by same-sex couples. There are bad people who happen to be Catholic. This does not mean Catholics are bad people. Use a little common sense. LOL your reading skills need help…. Maybe tomorrow my church as a whole will go molest people for fun. Get over the past and look at the now. My family is Catholic and they are amazing people, far from thieving and violent. AGAIN, your ignorance and intolerance is showing.
If you want to argue semantics, go ahead. What he said was offensive. No less offensive than someone saying Muslims are a terrorist organization who are violent and discriminatory against women.
An organization is in and of itself not violent or morally depraved. An organization is not a living thing. Did I write that Catholics are bad people? I said their organization, their governing body is criminal. The fact that they had male chaperones sitting in a balcony looking down on you like some piece of meat also is another base for a lovely suit.
This was never about the rules, or even dancing. It was about the green eyed monster some of the women at the event had because you looked amazing and they wished they could look that way again or have those men looking at them that way. I would pursue this because they took from you what was supposed to be a wonderful night because of their own personal flaws.
D she would have no other option than to have me arrested for disorderly conduct. That was something that stood out to me as being an uncomfortable situation. Having men standing above and look down on the group, as a women who is anything but small could see down my shirt and my chest unless I wore a turtle neck.
I really think there was an issue with the adult men getting turned on by the young women and for one reason or another she was singled out and sent home. It was a private paid function, the group essentially stole their time and money from these teens. At the very least taking them to small claims court will cause them to have to expend time of their own, not to mention a hassle, maybe it will force them to pay up and refund the money, at most stop being so stupid.
I really hope all the parents raised one hell of a stink. We are behind you with support and love. This episode with all its legalistic standards is hilariously paradoxical, considering what high school prom has come to offer: Why mandate dress length when the purpose is to cast off limits anyway?
Five years ago, dresses would have been four fingers above the knee, with buttock-high out of the question. Why is fingertip length so important now? And whose fingertips, anyway? Do you find that creepy? Maybe the kickers-out were not protecting themselves from lust so much as you from their creepy vibe.
You love that dress, not because you love yourself in it, but because certain others love or hate you in it. You want to be singular without being singled out.
You want to conform and yet stand out. You want the power that comes with being desired, but you want to be desired only by the ones you find desirable and be invisible to the rest. On the other hand, Clare, you could have suffered a fate much worse than what actually befell: Yeah, any man who oogles teen ass without feeling like an idiot is really immature.
Most men grow up enough not feel compelled to oogle at every nice ass they see. No matter how nice it is. My conservative homeschooling parents were both Rejectors of Patriarchy, and my politics and faith are much more similar to theirs than is the case for most of my peers raised in patriarchal homes.
Read that over and over and over again. Is there shame for committing the sin of lust? Is there any shred of acknowledgement of what the Patriarchy claims is a pervasive evil?
The only men who are made to feel shame for their lust are young, attractive men. The older men feel perfectly free to lust because the lust of a young attractive man is usually welcomed by attractive young women.
The lust of a disgusting, repressed geezer, on the other hand, is abhorred by young women. Therefore, it is a useful tool for controlling young attractive women. What about those deemed unattractive? Those women have none of the power over the feelings and actions of males that these men have a paralyzing fear of.
So here before us is the paradox of Patriarchy. Lust is evil in young, not-yet-mature men but perfectly fine in old, supposed-to-be-the-spiritual-leaders-but-obviously-has-tons-of-holes-in-their-umbrella men. A TEENAGE girl dressing in a way that was never specified as wrong by the Bible is evil, but the command from Jesus to men to not commit adultery by lusting in his heart over a woman does not pertain to older supposed-to-be-mature males who are usually MARRIED and, therefore, in the only kind of status that is capable of committing adultery.
Yet we women are the emotional beings who need to be controlled? What are resources are you using? This simply could have been made up by you. Did YOU go to high school? Sorry your prom was a disaster. Its on them not you. They have a problem. By legal definition if they lust after a child under 18 yrs of age, they are child molesters. It was the women who did the shaming and exhibited the truly sexist behavior. Lusting after an adolescent happens. Some adolescents look like adults.
What makes one a child molester is, you know, molesting a child. As another tall gorgeous woman, I am too often met by women who have a sense of inferiority, especially upon first meeting.
Even though their feelings and beliefs about themselves are not my personal responsibility, I do love creating and nurturing the experience of the human connection. I wish for people to feel at ease with me. Hence, my desire to assure a woman that she has no need for her walls. Step beyond a womans walls, and you can relish in the pure sunshine that she may not even know shines from within her.
I have found that the very best thing I can do to prove to women that they have no need for making assumptions in regards to me, is treat them with genuine resect and love. We are equals, after all. It is a true sadness to me when I encounter a woman who will not see herself as my peer.
Something tells me that Mrs. D had always dreamt of looking and feeling as gorgeous as you did that night, Clare. But on the occasion that she got that chance, someone somewhere. It would seem that whomever that person s was tragically succeeded in their pursuits.
This way they can take comfort in the fact that they are not alone in their misery. I do not wish to create excuses for Mrs. D, only to express that my heart goes out to her and those who would support her beliefs and actions. The epidemic regarding rape culture is highly promoted, vouched for, believed in, and fiercely stood by.
Particularly by the victims thereof. I applaud you Clare for not only refusing to stand among the victims, but for also spreading awareness on the matter. You were absolutely beautiful for prom night, and you have a great group of friends. Your generation is not going to put up with this garbage. I was shamed as a college girl for wearing sweat pants in my own dorm.
A guy from church had dropped by unannounced, and I had just returned from jogging. He wanted me to change. I felt as if I had done something bad, although logically how could i even know that after 9pm I would get a surprise visit, or that baggy gey sweatpants are sexy?
Or maybe i am just a godess. My point is — I took all the shame on myself. Your generation is going a different direction and I am very glad for you. I would like to tell you that you are nothing short of amazing. I am proud of you for standing up for yourself and deeply ashamed of those at the prom who objectified you and shamed you. No one should make you feel ashamed for being a woman.
No one should make you feel like your height, your curves, or anything else about your body is anything to hide. No one should shame you for wearing a pretty dress! Clare, get an attorney and sue the living shit out of that lady, and everyone else involved. Make them pay dearly for ruining your only senior prom. The rules of the game are different.
Clare paid for a ticket. She detrimentally relied- by buying a dress, paying for a limo, etc- on the promise that she would be able to attend and enjoy this event, so long as she stuck to the rules.
She was thrown out, but not for violating the rules. Unlike a baseball game, there was nothing on her ticket that stated the organizers could refuse admission for any or no reason.
Go to the police and file a sexual harassment complaint. If they balk, go to court and file for an order of protection against the parents serving as chaperones. The record will follow them the rest of their lives. The case would fall through and just be a waste of money.
It would fall through. It was their organization. I have an officer living in my house and if he read this chain he would laugh at how silly this is. She would be turned away. She did follow the rules. She may not have any kind of criminal case but I bet she could at least get a refund for her friends.
I disagree with you. She chose to attend and follow the rules by purchasing their ticket. Number one, by accounts, she DID follow the rules. D arbitrarily chose to make the rules only apply for one person. The money and time spent on the attire and associated expenses can — so I would say that girl and her group are entitled to recompensation.
The law as in a police officer will not arrest anyone at this point, however this could easily go to civil court, and if won in civil court, a prosecutor could decide to file charges as discrimination is against the law. Unlikely, but it could happen. You are aware that having a police office reading over your shoulder means jack and shit, right?
Is this police officer also a lawyer? Does he understand discrimination and civil suits around said discrimination?
Criminal law is not the same as civil law. If anyone treated my daughter this way they would see the inside of a courtroom. Also, the whole affair strikes me as more of a jealous matriarchy than any other form of social lunacy. D saw a lovely young woman — like she never was. She sounds like a jealous ugly old biddy. Same tall, curvey, lovely girls seemed to get caught every day. Clare, you looked absolutely wonderful in the pictures you posted.
Your face and hair are classic beauty, and, as mentioned in other posts, your date looks like he managed to channel an equivalent level of classic good looks to match you. By your own admission, I would have looked twice — maybe even thrice — when you walked into the room. To be fair, we have no idea what the dads in the balcony were looking at or talking about. There is nothing in this article to indicate that the males — boys and men — at this prom did anything untoward or inappropriate.
The unfortunate events that unfolded here were not the doings of men. Ed — I had the same thought. But I know from my growing up this happened several times where it was strictly the women enforcing dress code on young women. It is not out of line with psychology that they would use what ever reason they could come up real or imagined as a reason to slut shame, and avoid the personal responsibility of the situation. When is it ever necessary for more than one or two chaperons to be so far removed from the children they are chaperoning?
What would be the purpose? Yes, these older women derive some sort of benefit from all of this in that they feel a little more secure in their loss of beauty. Also, it is the complete trashing of the interpretations of the Bible to falsely favor a certain way of life that just happens to place all power and control in the hands of the old men of the group that informs this behavior. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. Lusting is not a sin.
Only married people can commit adultery. Therefore, only married people lusting after another are committing the sin of adultery. Women can support patriarchy. Clare, what makes you beautiful is not the shape of your body, or your hair or eyes, or the way that dress looks on you. Your intellect and understanding of what happened makes you wiser than the bunch of sex-deprived adults that in the name of chaperoning are looking for fantasy material for their private times.
All the parents need to take the prom organizers, the ones not issuing the refunds, to small claims court separately, and then testify for each other. That way these fools have to go to court five separate times.
Make them pay and shut them down. I feel like you deserve a cookie for this because that would make their lives miserable for at least a little while. Are you being sarcastic or serious, for or against my proposal? Might be a bit too early for my mind to be working right. Being a thorn in their sides would be awesome. Its okay to think something is sexy as long as your behavior is appropriate for the situation.
Them being church dads has nothing to do with it. Perverted Church dads… More like pedophiles that go to church and are allowed to chaperon a school function like a dance to just fuel the fire. I agree that they, the fathers, Mrs D and anyone else included in this PLOT to kick you out of your prom, should be held accountable in court.
Now, depending on your local culture, this may make you a pariah but it may also create an important dialogue that would help prevent future occurrences of such behavior. Yeah…a good lawsuit might do wonders.
Did anyone even see the nasty chaperone woman running up and down the stairs in that brief 15 minutes? Did she have a walkie-talkie to communicate with the men? You receive your filing and other, reasonable legal fees when you win.
Therefore you FAIL basic reading comprehension. Must be a homeschool parent. It strikes me as probable that no fathers were actually involved. Just the nasty woman who hated the dress. Sounds more like the matriarchy was the bad actor in this story. I believe that you, your boyfriend, and your entire party were robbed of a wonderful evening and over a hundred dollars. When older adults treat young adults with disrespect and disdain, they damage their own credibility.
This really comes back to the rape argument. She was raped for being too tall, too short, too hot, too drunk, too dressy. Go out and make those memories away from 40 year old perverts. If she was, I would agree with your argument. She simply kicked out.
Did you read my entire comment? I made an analogy, if you will. The thought process behind blaming her for the men staring at her is the same EXACT thought process behind blaming the victim in rape. This highlights a male dominated society in which men are, essentially, allowed to do what they want and women are held to a much higher standard of behavior.
Those are statements that are not only said all the time, but are considered okay for daytime television and PG movies in one variation or another.
Even women have those thoughts sometimes. I read the entire thing. What people need to realize is that this is a private organization run my Christians and if they want to kick someone out because she looks to provocative, then they have every right to do so. They were supposed to stand there and report anything. This whole situation has been blown way out of proportion.
Sure it sucks that she got kicked out since it was fingertip length but this situation has blown up too much. Like I said, its a Christian organization that she paid to attend. By purchasing a ticket, she is implying that she is willing to abide to the rules of the people running the prom.
Nor does it mean she was automatically in the wrong because she wore a tight dress. She followed the rules, she was kicked out, and it was because they made up rules against her.
She did abide by the rules! Does the dress code also say something about tightness? She followed the rules, she was kicked out despite having followed the rules, and you think because it is a private function this is okay? If a rape occurs at a private function, is that okay? How about bullying, abuse, racism? The answer is no. It is never, ever okay to belittle, demean, demoralize, gang up on or persecute anybody, regardless of the public or private nature in which it takes place.
They simply asked her to leave. She was wearing a tight dress that could easily slide upwards. She was not being belittled. They seriously just made her leave.
They are not breaking any laws by doing this. I was there and witnessed the dress. If she wanted to be treated differently, she should have attended a different prom.
Denying her a witness is also illegal. Did you attend this event? Because it sounds like you know nothing about the organization. Because it was tight? Because it was revealing? Did her boobs pop out? You have already stated that she followed the rules. Ergo she was discriminated against. Its a freaking homeschool prom. They chaperons have the right to say it looked too revealing.
If she wanted to be treated with dignity and respect, she should expect to be treated as such wherever she goes, whether she walks in wearing a tight dress or nothing at all. Please remember your god hung out with lepers and whores. My friend was also called out because her top was slightly too revealing.
Finger tip length is finger tip length. She met that test and it looks petty that she was thrown out because it rode up a bit while she was moving. D must have been ogling her quite persistently if she noticed the dress ride up a few times. If this happened to you and you were kicked out, would you be so ambivalent about it now? Please go and explain feminism to every man who does not understand it. No need to apologise for your gender. I never see men talking with this much clarity about such issues online i hardly ever see men say positive things about feminism online.
KPM, throughout this thread you are demonstrating quite handily that h0mesk00led kids do not necessarily get any better educated than public-school kids. Maybe this is a prejudice against the Old South, but might you have been kicked out because of your boyfriend? BTW, he and you were both dressed very nicely for a prom.
Just a bunch of old racist slavers in the balcony. That is prejudice against the South. That might have been the way it used to be, but things change. I am from Texas and currently live in the North temporarily. I am learning all sorts of new slurs I have never heard before and the true meaning of segregation. Also, all my Southern black friends who come up north always comment that they are treated worse when they go north not that things are perfect in the South.
Those sorts of interracial couples have the stories with the largest disparities in how they are treated in cities in the South Houston, Orlando vs.
A German girl I knew who was dating a black man in Florida talked about visiting his parents in Chicago and how everyone but his family treated them like they were pariahs.
Being mixed myself with Asian, White, and Hispanic, I have experienced an alienation that I have never felt back home. Georgia might be an exception. Texas is a long way from the capital of the old Confederacy. And it is definitely segregated except specific neighborhoods in the center of their largest city.
The racism is just done in private, rather than broadcasted. And if you look up the statistics, the most segregated cities are northern ones. And northern schools are far more segregated than anything the South has a comparable example to. Northerner here who agrees that racism is certainly not limited to the South. I found out as an adult that I grew up next to at least one sundown town.
Good for you, both for knowing how fucked up this is and for refusing to let it make you feel bad about yourself. The LB Gorilla in the room may be that she was with a young black gentleman as her date. Were there a lot of bi racial couples at the date? If there were then I am wrong and glad to be so. Either way I feel badly for Clare and as a father of 5 daughters I am disgusted by the way she was treated. She sounds like a fine young lady with a bright future.
Like many events during the teen years this will be a forgotten memory in the rear view mirror soon enough.
The people from the North posting here need to understand that the majority of the South has moved on from all that you see portrayed in movies. We are also not like the North. I was not making a geographical statement. I live in NC. Racism is everywhere as far as I can tell and certainly knows no boundaries. It would seem to be that I was mistaken on that assumption which I certainly acknowledged as a possibility in my first post.
It sounds more likely that like she ran in to some sexually uptight and frustrated adults that decided she was the flavor of the evening to take out their shortcomings on. As mentioned , whatever the reason, she was clearly wronged. Black friends from down South who go north agree. And bi-racial couples who go north have agreed. There have been extensive studies on the fact that Northern schools and cities are the most segregated in the country. Just do a search on it. Plus, there are a lot of homeschool Christians, such as the family I grew up in, that devoutly believe in the equality of the races but not the equality of the genders.
So it is definitely not applicable to those kinds of groups, unless the poster says so. I know you mean well dad, but she will never forget this. This did damage and left a scar.
What the chaperones did was deliver the message that male privilege dictates what girls can do and when and where they can do it. Senior Prom is a big deal. Its a huge power trip to allow someone to stay or throw them out.
But not for a bad reason. I had parents who always tried to downplay the effects of something bad happening. I know they did it in the hopes that I really would forget about it. But that only caused more pain. So in the end, I had 2 bad memories: You are a fierce feminist.
I love how this post is written. Proud to share womanosity with you! Xtian hypocrisy at its finest. Disgusting practices that have no place in a civilized world. She looks very beautiful, sure, but nothing like a sex object. If these men were really having trouble here, then A Their wives need to have a talk with them, and B their wives need to spend more time with them.
They are grown-ass men. They cannot have become same in this society without understanding at some level that men openly ogling women in public is at best crass, at worst perceivable by the women in question as threatening. Badly, rudely handled by the PTB. And as always, placing the responsibility for what supposedly adult men think … on women — and in this instance, women young enough not to be able to legally drink or vote.
If this was a public school prom, public outrage would have fixed the problem almost immediately. But these parents and organizers are accountable to no one but themselves and doubtless are taking pride that we, the unbelievers, are attacking their superior moral stance on the issue.
Not all religions oppress women, but these is a definite tendency among them to prescribe the behavior of women in order to protect men from sin. Because, obviously, men are not accountable for their own actions. Clare, you look beautiful in these pictures, and I have to say that your boyfriend looks handsome here as well. I hate the idea that women are responsible for the thoughts that men have about us, and it sucks that your prom was ruined because a few adults were incapable of behaving in a mature fashion.
At least the group you were with stood by you. Having such good friends by your side can make even the most unjust situations more bearable.
You did a great job of articulating yourself here, and I like that you admitted to flipping off the security guards. It may not be an excuse, but being angry makes perfect sense given the circumstances. I find her dress to be unquestionably classy. The Partician South is still completely racist, so she was looking to make an example of you. It seems to me that the female chaperone was the one with the problem and was just blaming the dads, but who knows what really happened. I hope you get your refunds, and the homeschool prom gets a LOT of negative press.
I had to call my mom and tell her to bring me a cover.. If those women ywere jealous of their husbands looking at an attractive young woman, they should have told their husbands not to look.
Men have a responsibility to not be sleazy and to control their own eyes. I am sorry you were treated in such a manner by men and women who claim ostensibly to be Christians. I admire that you took the actions to speak out and share your story and views.
You will be dealt a lot of unfair hands in life because you are a woman; this is — unfortunately — just the first of many. It is women like you standing up for themselves that help to make change happen. I hope you will keep fighting the good fight. At times, you may need to choose your battles. And, as you point out in your blog post, you will earn more credibility when you argue your points calmly and respectfully, even when those same courtesies are not given to you.
Thank you for speaking out and remember — the best revenge is living well. She looked like a very innocent young girl. They should have been down on their knees begging for strength from their Lord to resist these thoughts. But that would require them actually living up to their religious claims instead of sitting back and blaming the world for their problems. Those men are an embarrassment to Christian men, everywhere. Sorry to hear you had to go through that.
Judging by your pics, the dress was pretty tame, even by Puritan American standards. Do you think this might have played a role in what was going on and that the dress might have been an excuse, or one of two reasons they wanted to remove you? It seems like there are some intersectioanal forms of oppression going on here. If these men are sexist, then it stands to reason they might be guilty of holding prejudices based on perceived race. Given the social climate that is unforgiving or prejudices based on perceived race, they may have come up with another excuse to save face from being accused of racism.
Not all adults are as petty as these people. I always enjoy reading about the great missionary work Christians do… for atheism. You forgot the Golden Rule: Fortunately, you are a stronger person today for what you experienced, and better equipped to handle that garbage when it really counts and it will.
I think it shows a real lack of maturity on the part of the adult chaperones saying what they did and forcing you out of the dance because of their own personal biases. If you are going to take the high ground on this issue, you are going to need to address this as it should be; a woman-on-woman act of bigotry. Good luck on your continued education and here is to hoping for a better future where all gender bias is eliminated.
I simply wanted to send along some love and support. I hope the issue was resolved and kudos for standing up for yourself and for not feeling beaten down by a mentality that is clearly wrong. If the black guy in the photo was her date………is she really stupid enough to think her dress was the problem they had with her. Wake up, kid, they are racists. I think it is a good sign that our youth consider other possibilities rather than automatically assuming that the problem was race.
On the other hand, it appears this situation was definitely, sadly about race…. You will most likely get tons of help now! Its a race issue being your boyfriend is black, or 2.
Something more personal, or 3. These dads are a bunch of pedophiles. One thing I do have to say is the grammatical errors in this article are atrocious. I think that upset me more THAN the article itself. I want to see an educated youth. Regardless of sex or race. Your very first item contains a very similar error. I would say the same to you. The youth intelligence level or one single night being ruined by some jerks.
If anything that one night is a life lesson to this girl because in adult life you will face these types of people daily. Speaking on your emotions on an intellectual level will gain more people on your side to help defend your cause.
Pick your battles, john. Grammar is a FAR lesser issue than this. Relying from a phone. A simple grammatical error in an otherwise well-articulated post such as this is nothing compared to the kind of bull-shit with which this girl, and many girls worldwide, have had to, and continue to have to, deal.
If the article detailed an honor student doing everything right in this same scenario, How much more publicity would this kick up. As someone who was a phenomenal student in high school, but also developed very early and had very large breasts, I can assure you that being book-smart and well-spoken does not defend a woman from being treated inappropriately.
I declare his entire string of comments wrong and invalid based on that information alone. Personally I thought your dress was very cute and what I wore to my prom was WAY worse than your dress, cleavage and length wise.
As awful as this sounds, you and your parents need to file a formal complaint with your school and school board against the woman who screwed with you about your dress. Also make a complaint that you were uncomfortable with the male chaperones in the balcony. This prom sounds like something out of a Catholic High School nightmare. You should take solace not only in being right, but also in being infinitely more well-spoken and mature than the troglodytes who kicked you out.
It was unfair and wrong. I would wear the same things as my high school classmates, but is often get called out for violating dress code. Short hair on a young girl, a black date, a miniskirt looking dress, at a conservative homeschool event. Theres a billion reasons she could of got kicked out.
What if the balcony was full of racist dads gawking at the girl because of her date? How do you know? You just pick the subject you want. The haircut gives you away.
They should have gone home to play with themselves while you all had a great time. Clare, you looked absolutely stunning and your dress was gorgeous. Is there anyone we can contact to support and advocate for the refund and public apology? This kind of bullshit excuse my language really frustrates me, and I want to help stand against it. Who Cares Im glad she got kicked out, welcome to the real world. Shit happens, only this new generation cant handle it and cry about it on the internets.
Clare I personally believe what the people at the home school prom did was completely uncalled for. This year was my second year attending this prom and my first year my dress was shorter than yours but it had a see through train that was connected at the waist.
I had the train wrapped up at my hips and my dress became shorter than what it was before. Plus all through that time I was grinding and dancing provocatively as well. Many adults saw me but did nothing! This year my dress was mid thigh but because I have a larger sized chest than most girls my age and I even ended up falling out of my dress on multiple occasions.
I had different parents and even my friends told me and I fixed it! If any one should have been kicked out it should have been me! I even stopped multiple times to talk and say hello to the person who put the prom together and yet she never said anything about my breasts and dress! They should take into account that every single person has a different body type and so the dresses will be different fits than to another person!
I hope though that in the future you would have a better time at prom! The Old South still lives and breathes there. As I was reading the story and got to the photo of them in the car I knew immediately the real reason she was asked to leave was most likely because the adult men had a problem with her escort.
The dress and the dancing was simple a smokescreen for a sad…make that very sad…cultural stigma. Shame shame…shame on them. Clare I totally agree with you. How ridiculous … I think that you looked beautiful and appropriately dressed.
Someone in the area should organize a flash mob protest outside the school calling for the termination of this Mrs. If you want to look attractive, awesome. As I said its classy. You were dressed especially tastefully, in my opinion! I apologize for my gender yet again. This may be petty, but if you have a graduation ceremony, wear that dress under your gown and soon as you commence and the ceremony is over walk around with just the dress on. Maybe you could convince your very loyal friends to join you.
This is just a suggestion, personally I did the same thing when I graduated and wore a dress that I preformed in a choir concert in that a huge group of girls said I looked like a hooker in- it was knee length, not very tight, and moderately higher cut in chest and the moment the ceremony was over I took off my gown and walked right by the group.
Maybe it was because your date was non-white. Where was this, Jesustan? It may have less to do with race than with the way her dress fit. On one hand, we tell girls to be proud of their bodies, whatever they look like — tall, short, thick, skinny. While, on the other hand, people tend to be inconsistent about their standards around what they deem acceptable — and that varies on how different bodies may look in the same dress.
I really hope she can go to another prom this year…. From what I can see, the dress, the hair, and the makeup are all age appropriate. It sounds like Clare was was singled out from the get-go. Perhaps she was too happy. Perhaps she was too fun-loving.
Fuck Town: Space Exams. You're going to apply for participating in Mars expedition. Before you go you must pass several tests on astronomy, computer science etc . Brandy is your average next-door type of African chick. I had her over to watch movies but we didn't fuck until she woke me up the next morning. I'd read the stories about a Stripper Slut Wife, all of her sexy outrageous antics and never imagined that I knew this person. It all fell into place when I had to attend a week long exhibition and conference in my old home town.