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A reader asks how to help a newlywed friend. She's paying the bills, keeping careful track, budgeting for every predictable expense. He's running up unexpected bills, failing to warn her what they will owe this month or to turn over needed paperwork on time. And it's drowning her in distress.

Can this marriage be saved? Can she live with a man like this? Of course she can. How long have preachers been warning right at the altar that richer and poorer are both possible and even a normal part of marriage? Marriages can work and be outrageously happy with little money or with lots.

But they are almost always unpleasant when we believe our mate causes the problems we experience. Please do not let me imply it is OK for anyone to run their husband or wife into debt looking for that next dopamine hit or to sit at home playing sudoku while their mate does all the work.

It's not OK to do this, and it's not OK to provide anyone else with the means to do this. Your resentment comes not from the expense, but from your expectation about what a wise or loving person would do with the money.

You will find it much easier to love your spouse when you let go of the expectation that money means the same thing to both of you and you should therefore agree on how much you need or how it gets spent. If you need a budgeted amount or a cash reserve to feel secure and to perhaps even enjoy paying for something your spouse needed or wanted, why not add it to the budget or start building the cash reserve?

It is quite normal to have different risk tolerance levels, different long-term financial goals, different reactions to spontaneity vs. When you disagree, find a Third Alternative , an option that gives both of you what you need. A good friend, like the one who asked the question, can help morph a complaint about differences into a set of specs for an alternative that works for both of them.

Friends can also help brainstorm creative ways to get what both want. Some will say we cannot find more money or more time.

I know for certain we can. I know it because my husband dropped dead, and I had to. Suddenly it became possible, because I was willing to work harder, take more risks, and do less unnecessary stuff. I know it because every couple that divorces, claiming they never had enough money, finds the money for two homes, duplicate bedrooms and toys for the kids, separate vacations with the kids.

Many will say, "Unfair! Why should I bring in more money or spend less on something else when my spouse could fix the problem by becoming more responsible with money? Marriage is always unfair. Just add up what you would spend to live alone, what chores you would need to do living alone, how much you would spend on looking for love, how much time it would take to help your kids maintain close relationships with both parents. Most married folks have an incredibly unfair advantage.

Why would they consider jeopardizing all this over a squabble about how much more money and time they could be saving? A friend can help an embattled spouse measure what's happening against a realistic alternative, instead of the alternative of a fantasy spouse who thinks just as we do. A friend can help come up with ways to deal with the real problem instead of turning it into a marriage problem. I do not mean to say the more money-cautious spouse must be the one to fix this problem.

But for me, in my first 13 years of marriage, the idea that I could be the one to fix our problems never occurred to me. The idea that my spouse could be perfectly at ease with a situation that created stress for me and that my stress and my reaction to it were the real problems getting between us never occurred to me.

The idea that fair is not half as satisfying as close never occurred to me. And then he was dead, and I had to earn all the money, pay all the bills, make everything work. There was no one to whom I could say, "We have to talk.

It was bone-crushingly depressing to realize I could have done the same while I still had a chance to enjoy the very special man I had chosen to wed. Want help figuring out how to enjoy whatever time you have with your husband or wife, in spite of money issues?

Use the comments section. Give yourself a phony name and a blank URL to remain anonymous. But please include your email address.

It will not be published. It will let me notify you when I post a reply and perhaps include some extra, unpublished suggestions. Posted by Patty Newbold on Aug 17, Permalink.

If one's loving spouse -- despite agreeing to a particular financial arrangement -- continually breaks the agreement and takes on unmanageable debt, I predict you would say to handle this as you would a situation with addiction or abuse.

That is, continue to love the person while protecting oneself until they've gotten treatment that allows them to honor their agreements. And I imagine that in states where both spouses are responsible for each spouse's debt the most sure-fire way to protect oneself from the other person's overspending would be legal separation. Roodle August 17, 4: Yes, it's just like abuse due to any other addiction. If your spouse is out of control, you want to minimize the opportunity to do further harm.

What's possible varies by state and by the couple's particular circumstances. I would advise anyone in this spot to consult a lawyer. Legal separation could create a higher "bottom" for the overspending spouse to hit.

It also protects the prudent spouse if the relationship ends in divorce. But it gives up any control over the debt run up by the overspender. Some states may offer better ways to protect oneself and one's spouse by canceling accounts or changing credit limits.

Patty Newbold August 17, 5: Patty, My wife has for years failed to pay the bills on time. The biggest problem is that I'm away so much and never found out about any of the debt. I was shocked when we were served papers for foreclosure. I realize that I am at fault for not helping or paying attention. Now she is wanting to divorce and seeking custody of our three children. I very much still love her and have taken over the household finances. I am worried that she will just fall into her old patterns once again.

Is there any legal grounds to keep the children? She is a wonderful mother otherwise. Mike October 2, Thanks for your comment, Mike. I don't know much about custody law nor even which state you're in, so I cannot answer. However, I wonder why you're dealing with custody issues. You still love her. She is and always will be your kids' other parent. Why not court her one more time?

Why not give it everything you've got? Will she be irresponsible with money again? That depends on what led to it, whether it was her way of dealing with money or her way of dealing with resentment over a marriage that was not what she expected. In either case, your children's best interests lie in being surrounded by love while they grow up, not money. Patty Newbold October 3, Emmie April 7, Emmie, it can be very frustrating not to have what you need.

And it is easy to believe that someone who fails to end your frustration must not love you. But in many cases, this conclusion is wrong, and there is a solution, a Third Alternative, that will work for you.

Divorce almost never solves a money problem. The divorce costs money. Running two homes instead of one costs money. If your kids need help or get into trouble because of the divorce, it costs money. Getting things done with just one parent in the household costs money. Is he irresponsible, spending it on something like gambling or drinking?

Does he disagree on how much the house and your child ought to cost? If so, brainstorm with him about ways to handle them on less money. Or on ways to save him money in other areas.

Or accept that he will not contribute any more than he does now, and you will not need less than you are looking for, and get yourself a job, just as you would need to do if divorced. Does he not make enough to pay for your home and still give you what you need? If so, start looking for a home that costs less and needs less care. Or is he less than generous in retaliation for something that he feels is missing from your marriage? A clue would be if he used to provide you with enough for your expenses but no longer does, even though he has no addiction problem and no new expenses.

If this is the case, clear the air over what's bugging him.

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Panahi, who had advocated for the release of her husband from almost until Abedini was freed from an Iranian jail in January , testified before the court that they had been living apart on and off as early as She explained that she was forced to call the police and move in with her parents in after Abedini allegedly attacked her over a disagreement with his extended family. Saeed was talking with his parents on Skype and his siblings.

And they were saying things about me that was upsetting me. And so I told them to stop and And I asked that he stop talking to them and that we can talk about what they were discussing about me. And he refused and was angry that I even stated my opinion. And stood up and grabbed my shirt, neck, and he started rebuking demons out of me.

And shaking his finger, in the name of Jesus I rebuke the demons. And my mind flashed back," she said. She then went on to explain how just a year after marrying Abedini in November , he administered a beating on her in Dubai while waiting for his visa to be processed so he could move to the U. We had come to the country of Dubai and we were awaiting for visa for Saeed to get into the U.

But we had just that night left Iran. We had arrived at an apartment and I was unpacking a suitcase that Saeed had neatly put together. And I said who cares. And as soon as I said that the same facial expression that I saw in as He got very angry.

He started beating me very badly. I had bumps coming out of my head. Kicking and hitting, and I thought I was going to die. I was screaming and yelling," she said.

Read Saeed Abedini's testimony in court. When questioned why she didn't seek help, Panahi said domestic violence victims rarely get help in Muslim countries and are usually blamed for any attacks from their spouse. It was in a Muslim country where it is normal and you don't really get a right.

And you don't really have a right as a woman if you get beaten. But at the same time I thought I can't even report it to our embassy because I was a citizen because he will not be accepted into the U.

She said her faith and her culture were other reasons why she didn't walk away from the marriage as soon as trouble started.

She kept saying Naghmeh, just don't make him more angry. You are in a Muslim country. Just keep quiet, keep calm until you can come to the U. His mom really didn't have a reaction," she said. He said demonic forces had made him do it. Part of his Gathering tour was cancelled to accommodate for this new addition to his family, though Ritter has promised to return to those markets for another show. In , Ritter's band members — some of whom had been performing with him from the early s — were given the name "The Royal City Band" a reference to the song "Thin Blue Flame" from The Animal Years.

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